Joe Louis vs Alexander Povetkin

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Jan 31, 2022.


Who wins?

  1. Povetkin

    29.4%
  2. Louis

    70.6%
  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Give louis 6 months with modern PEDs and he literally runs through the late klitschko era
     
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  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Getting back to the thread topic for a moment:

    People with fire, pointy sticks and dogs are the most fearsome predator produced by any terrestrial pre-agricultural environment. As they proved by curbstomping 3-4 separate land masses worth of ecosystems.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You still don't get it, Cobra.
    You're still banging on about the knockdown.

    The Knockdown was not the crux of our differences.
    We both agree on what happened regarding the essentials of what you term, the knockdown.

    We both agree that Povetkin wasn't actually knocked down and didn't actually hit the canvas. We both agree that what happened was, by the rules of boxing, equivalent to a knockdown and could be scored as a knockdown.

    As cross Trainer has pointed out, the difference there is one of semantics.

    Neither one of us disputes the facts of the knockdown...we only differ in how to name it.



    And again, for the umpteenth time, the KD or non-KD was NOT the crux of the argument and not what started the dispute.

    What started the dispute, and what IS the crux of the argument, was your assertion that Povetkin went "life and death with Price."

    That simply didn't happen.


    One of these arguments (the Knockdown question) is not really an argument at all but a dispute over semantics.

    The other argument (the "life-and-death question) is an actual dispute as to how the fight could be characterized.

    As I"ve said, Povetkin outboxed Price in all five of the rounds that the fight lasted. Price did not win a single round. He suffered two knockdowns, the second of which left him out on his feet and flat on his back, senseless.

    Thus, its should be obvious that the fight was not a life-and-death affair, but rather a one-sided destruction of the hapless Price.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I don't consider a fight "one-sided" if someone is knocked down while delivering the destruction.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Tbh he probably does even without them.

    It's not like that era was much better than his own.
     
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  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Extreme example, but what about the knockdown fight between Holmes and Shavers?
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    OK, Cobra.

    We'll leave it at that.

    You consider that Povetkin went life and death with Price.

    I consider the fight a one-sided blow-out.

    I think we have to agree to disagree.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    That's even worse. Holmes was hurt for like 2 rounds because of that knockdown. His legs were jelly and had to cover up or fight to survive. Holmes certainly was not delivering a "one sided beat down".
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Oh it definitely murdered things.

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  10. BCS8

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    Sounds to me like Louis went life and death with Galento

    :stirrpot
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I always think of how comforting dogs must have been to primitive man when I'm lying on the couch half submerged by pitbulls, thinking that it could have been a cave with bears outside 50000 years ago
     
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  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's certainly possible you could find someone who would say so. ;)
     
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  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Malaria kicked the living cr4p out of them.

    Killed half the people that have ever lived by some estimates!
     
  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fast Eddie would school Louis. Peter would put Louis to sleep in 2.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    He did