Joe Louis vs Archie Moore 1950-1951

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  1. SuzieQ49

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    Mcvey it seems the only fighters you give credit too in that era are Clarence Henry Nino valdes and bob baker. Why is that?
     
  2. mcvey

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    I give credit where I think its due.
    For example I give credit to Moore for beating the three you've named and I believe he would beat the 1950/51 version of Louis too.

    Any particular reason why you didn't address my points regarding Louis 3 stoppage wins in 2 years?
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Mcvey has some issues with Rocky and doubts his one punch power. Henry, Valdes, and Baker didn't fight Rocky, so perhaps this is why McVey likes them.

    Had Marciano beaten any of them, I think he would try to take them down a peg.

    As for Louis vs Moore in 1950, I think it's a close fight.
     
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    Back on point, I feel that the Moore of 1951 was better conditioned, faster, far trickier and sharper than this Louis who moved on stiff legs and was clearly a point off on his accuracy and power .. in addition, Archie had the power to stun this Joe as well ..
     
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    He fell for Walcott's traps. Not a matter of intelligence, Louis just wasn't fast anymore to walk these guys down.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    That's a fair opinion.
     
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    Archie wasn't much of a mover. He stood in the pocket with excellent head and upper body movement but he fought in the trenches mostly. Moore would be right in front of joe Louis. Moore may have had a speed edge but louis held a 35lb weight advantage, and was stronger and hit harder. Ring IQs about equal
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    This is a tough to pick fight but Joe still had the power and style to take Archie out. Joe would take this fight seriously and IMO get Archie into the position to be stopped but Archie had power and would be dangerous against a slower reflexed Louis.

    I still think that version of Louis was better than Baker or Valdez so I think he could get to Archie, if not Archie could grind out a close decision
     
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    If he tagged him but I don't see it .. Archie was so slick and smart .. the only guy to beat him pretty much over a huge window of time was a prime Marciano and no one else had the chin, punch, punch resistance and stamina to grind him down .. at cruiser Marciano was nasty.
     
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    I have some issues with you because you are a know nothing yellow gutted cu*t
     
  11. mcvey

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    You are in a dream world where you have transported the Louis of the late 30's and early 40's into the old man who was winning fights against moderate challengers with the remnants of his once superlative jab.
     
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    Show me this power in1950/51.Where can I see it?
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    Moore showed movement against valdes that would have troubled Louis. Charles had a lot of success timing the right over the jab, Moore was better at that
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Mcvey has some issues with Rocky and doubts his one punch power. Henry, Valdes, and Baker didn't fight Rocky, so perhaps this is why McVey likes them.

    Had Marciano beaten any of them, I think he would try to take them down a peg.

    As for Louis vs Moore in 1950, I think it's a close fight.


    What is witth? :lol::lol::lol:Mr. Double standard on misspelled words strikes again!

    When you’re cornered, you have to go insults. We know darn well what you think of Rocky and most other heavyweights of distinction with a similar pigmentation.

    Now go back to shooting defenseless rabbits. That’s something you have enough courage to do.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    The older version of Louis still had a good jab. Moore did not have a great chin. Other light heavies could hurt him...and I think Louis of 50-51 could too.

    Moore could win on points if he beats Louis to the punch, and doesn't get tagged.

    Hard to pick this one..