joe louis vs david tua

well, i know that 4 or 5 guys will get mad with this topic but already i am tired and boring in 2016 with certain people overrating joe louis h2h.

let´s to see it objectively.

prime vs prime .

louis was a cruiserweigt. 6´2 and 198 pounds , basically a full sized cruiserweight.

tua was 5´10 and weighed 226 pounds in his prime, he had clearly wider frame , was much more robust not just in mass but frame.

tua was a guy who was not hard to outbox by fast guys type boxers with fast footwork, louis is absolutely discarded from this category, like ali said, louis had a pretty slow footwork. however tua did pretty well against guys who did traded with him, you can argue that he did beat ike or a draw, ibeabuchi was 30 pounds of muscle bigger than louis and obviously much stronger with a better chin.

louis could hit hard and was a great combo puncher and he was even better finisher for a man of his size but if he could not ko a guy like Adolph Wiater just saying a name.... i doubt that he could ko tua... a tank with iron chin...( waiting for some idiot mentioning a tko in the amateurs with the experienced felix savon, marciano got stopped also as amateur). david tua took shots from huge guys like lewis, rahman, ike.. modern athletes over 230 pounds.

could louis beat tua? if he fights careful and fights for a decision win... then yes... but stylistically i think that they would go to the war and tua definitely took a much better shot, was much heavier, stronger and hits harder. louis had definitely faster hands ( but tua had very fast hands for a man of his size), louis was more accurate, was more skilled,overall pfp the better fighter but louis himself did admit that he did bad against pressure fighters. tua had great stamina and could carry his weight and power late. and please, don´t compare a big bum like galento with tua... they are not even close. stylistically h2h it is a winnable fight for tua if you don´t admit it you are just biased and ridiculous. the funny thing is that i pick jimmy young to humiliate tua, it is all about styles.
tua never had problems with smaller (weight) punchers, byrd was a southpaw and type cute boxer, nothing like the slow(feet) louis.
michael moorer in fact was bigger than louis when he fought tua. moorer was capable to hurt holyfield. and tua just killed him like an insect. if you are not a fast guy with a good chin and fast footwork capable to outbox him or a big strong guy with a chin capable to trade with him all the fight you are not beating a prime tua.


i can see tua taking the best right hand from louis ( not smiling) and surviving, i can´t see louis taking the best left hook from tua and surviving.
some poor guys think that tua and galento are similiar or this fight would be similar... not even close... tua took a much better shot, hits harder and faster, he was physically stronger and was wider than the 100% fat galento. many people usually called tua fat, but i am talking about the prime 226 pounder tua, not the 245 pounder fat tua, tua was not ripped but he was built like a rhino... solid like hell at 226, galento at 230 looked a pathetic drunk pork of bar.
i have no problem with people picking louis explaining a realistic argument, but in the classic ussualy they resort to myths like argument, like worshiping a Buddha

 

the easiest answer of the word.. using data from different eras with different rivals with different size....

i can see louis losing to lewis, ike, and even byrd( seeing the tons of problems that louis had with movers).

tua would kill marciano, walcott(had the style but not the chin), schmeling,bradock etc, charles would have his chance making the perfect fight, but still he was too small at 185 pounds, he was not a southpaw like byrd and was much lighter and weaker. billy conn had the style also but he was too small at 170 pounds

 

not, i am assuming that he would beat THESE "elite" fighters based on i watched on him against certain fighters like michael moorer (elite lhw,killer puncher in his natural class and hard puncher at hw against big men capable to hurt holyfield who had iron chin), based on i watched against an undefeated promise like ike, and based on the fact that the concept h2h in boxing is about styles, not about greatness. and like i did explain, tua had several strengths that could explode several weakness of louis.
MAYBE TUA WAS NOT A GREAT THING IN " HISTORICAL TERMS" . but when he won he did in brutal fashion.he lost Just 3 times actually when he was not shot. lennox lewis, one of the very best of all time, chris byrd, a southpaw fast like hell guy who did beat vitali kllitschko and was avoided by lewis, and ike ibabuchi, controversial decision and close fight that could go to either way against an undefeated guy.
IF YOU ARE HONEST, YOU WILL ADMIT THAT TUA WOULD HAVE DONE MUCH BETTER AGAINST THE HWS (SMALL CRUISERS) OF THE ERA OF LOUIS

 

BILLY CONN? YOU DON´T EVEN KNOW WHO IS BILLY CONN BECAUSE YOU JUST MENTIONED A TYPE 170 POUNDER STYLIST LIKE A PROOF OF THE CHIN OF LOUIS...

tua never got stopped in his pro carrer even when he fought shot, louis got stopped by a 189 pounder.. and hurt and dropped tons of times.

galento, braddock, buddy baer,schmeling, walcott,marciano and probably more

 

WOW a decent honest answer.

lewis was way bigger than louis, with much longer reach, more physicall strength,50 pounds heavier and problably he hada harder single right hand, significant factors right?