joe louis vs david tua

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He would have weighed about 185 in Louis's day, but I agree that nobody would have wanted to fight such a fast southpaw.

    Hell they would probably have drowned him at birth!
     
  2. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua was a two fisted knock out artist and combination puncher, it's just nobody he fought was ever in the right range for him to throw anything but left hooks.
     
  3. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua had better jab than Sonny Liston, but his short arms in contrast to his opponents prevented him from ever using it.
     
  4. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua was great at cutting off the ring, but he prefered to follow his opponents in circles because he didn't want anyone to think he was trying to cut off the ring, so they would be surprised when he landed a wild shot...Which he intended to look that way.
     
  5. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua wasn't fat, he was just filled out....and Samoan.
     
  6. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua didn't have a poor workrate, he was just conserving himself.
     
  7. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know Tua's lack of movement was actually an advantage, while it prevented him from closing the gap against better boxers, he was never at risk for ducking into an uppercut.
     
  8. reznick

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  9. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua wasn't slow, he could be quick when he needed to, and he rarely needed to be quick.
     
  10. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua could beat great fighters, he just never fought a great fighter he could beat.
     
  11. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OK, let's see it 'objectively' (which you aren't) and let's see it prime vs. prime.
    Tua's career was fraught with losses to less than ATG's by a mile.
    Prime vs. Prime? OK, let's see a prime Louis 1940 vs. a prime Tua 1940. And let's see a prime Louis 2000 vs. a prime Tua 2000.
    Seems like the only 'Budda' you're referring to are all the 21'st century (perhaps steroid) monsters who would have been less then that 50-60 years ago and forgetting the greats who would have been more chisleled and modern 50-60 years later.
    You seem to be just another poster who ignores ERAS and would be better suited to posting in the Modern forum.
     
  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There is no "standard" heavyweight ranges from 200- no limit. Louis was above 200 most of his career including his prime. Btw you really show your intelligence by referring to me as an adjective.
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua lost his biggest fights. He is not beating a monster like Louis. Prime Louis tears Tua apart via 8th round tko in a one sided bout.
     
  14. mcvey

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    I'm not picking Tua but the description"fraught with losses "is a massive overstatement.
    Tua lost 5 fights of 59, only three of which were when prime, one to ATG Lewis,one to ranked Byrd,and one to ranked Ibeabuchi,his other two losses were to Barrett when he was 39 ,and one to Ustinov when he was 41.
     
  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tua only fought two punchers his whole career, namely Lewis and Ike (but how much of a puncher was he?)

    The reason why Tua was never stopped was because he was so easy to outbox, you'd have to be stupid to stand in front of him. (Kind of like the opposite of Amir Khan)

    As soon as Lewis dropped a couple of right hands on Tua, Tua behaved himself.

    When Louis unloads on Tuas chin, then well see how he reacts.

    Yes Tua was never down. But how many people really tested his chin?

    Some chins are tried and tested Ali, Mcall, Holyfield and Tyson and some despite never being down, I classify as untested, namely Tua and Vitali.