joe louis vs david tua

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  1. Mendoza

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    Janitor,

    Objectively speaking Louis fought in a time of lesser talent. Tua was in the 1990's and 2000's.

    If Galento could floor Louis, Tua would be serious business.

    Louis would need to move his feet, and keep that jab going all night.

    If he goes toe to toe or leaves himself open on defense, an upset can happen.

    I'll side with Louis on points, but think there is a very good chance for an upset here as Louis didn't exactly have an Ali, Holmes or V Klitschko level chin.
     
  2. reznick

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    It was the exact same study that found that Mayweather was the most accurate. Do you think Mayweather is one of the most accurate boxers of all time? Or would you consider that statement to be comic-book esque hypebole?

    I do not have the full study details, but I wouldn't mind conducting our own little study if others such as yourself were willing to contribute.
     
  3. reznick

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    And who said Galento was his most explosive against Louis?
     
  4. mcvey

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    Which other fights of his should we watch to see his explosiveness?:think
     
  5. mcvey

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    I see a man too slow afoot to take advantage of a hurt opponent when I look at the Louis fight, what do you see?

    How do you envisage a Galento v Lewis fight unfolding?
    Do you think Tony would be in any way competitive?

    I don't think Tua was the next coming of anyone, and I don't pick him to beat Louis, but to dismiss him as a one armed crude slugger is pure b*llocks!
     
  6. Senya13

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    And they were more credible than people Louis beat for the most part. The way people are trying to prove that Louis' bum of the month club was so underrated, they would have been new Alis and Tysons if there was no Louis, is just ridiculous. It was a very shi tty heavyweight era, and 90% of people on Louis' record series of defences were average or worse than average. Max Baer is easily the least skilled heavyweight champion *ever*, and he's rated as one of the best victories on Louis' resume by most. Galento could have challenged for the title of least skilled had he won the championship.
     
  7. reznick

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    Galento would get TKO'd by round 6, but he would've been more active than Tua, landing more power punches. He would've made it a tougher fight.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Here's eleven of Louis' title challengers ,how does Tua do against them?
    Simon
    Mann
    Thomas
    Roper
    Musto
    Mauriello
    Nova
    Dorazio
    Paychek
    McCoy
    Burman
     
  9. reznick

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    I never said anything about him being one armed. Why do you keep harping on that?

    I also never said anything about him being crude.

    Tua seemed to lose his steam when he can't land his leaping hook. Also, Tua's inside game seems to be non existent. At least in the Lewis fight. He is kept at bay the whole fight, just watch it. Galento on the other hand might look sloppy, but he's successfully getting on the inside and getting some shots in. He does so against two great punchers; Louis and Baer.
     
  10. reznick

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    This is the essence of the Lewis - Tua fight:
    https://streamable.com/cxcu

    He goes for one or two hooks at the start of the round, and then plays with Lewis' lead hand for the next 2:30. Before the 12th round had even started, the crowd was literally beginning to leave the arena.

    People want to call Galento all kinds of derogatory names, but can't take a little realistic critique of Tua. Pathetic.
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    If you see slow feet when you think of Louis then you don't understand his style. His footwork served him the purpose of constantly being in a position of attack. He could stalk opponents perfectly fine. A fighter out boxed Louis for 12 rds but guess what that fighter got knocked out in the 13th. That wasn't no happy accident.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Tua has been portrayed on this Forum as a crude slugger with no boxing skill,who only had a left hook.
    Does that answer your question?
    You are comparing how Tua failed to get to terms with the 6'5" 84" reach of Lewis with the 6'1.5" 77" reach of Louis that Galento managed to drop momentarily and was too slow to follow up on? Galento would be like a tubby little child in Lewis' hands he would not go 3 rds.
     
  13. mcvey

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    I was referring to Galento.:patsch And I was watching Louis on film in the 1960's. The Conn fight you are referring to ended the way it did because Conn went looking for the stoppage, no other reason, if he had kept to his game plano of stick and move ,a new champion would have been crowned ,and one who scaled 168lbs for that fight!
     
  14. mcvey

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    What derogatory names do they call Galento?

    Fat=True. Slow =True. Crude=True.Dirty=True.
    What critique of Tua is obnoxious and who to?
    He wasn't a great fighter , neither was Galento, but I don't think Tua would have lost to the scrubs Galento did.
    Do you?

    ps Tua settled for survival against Lewis.
    Galento would be a static sitting duck in the same position ,carved up, and tenderised, for the table.
     
  15. Seamus

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    He went into survival mode against Lewis, who was playing by the tall man rules. It sucked for the paying customer and it sucked that Tua packed it in so early.

    How long does Galento last against Lewis? Does he even land a single punch? Or does he bluster out there with his old timey "I'll moider the bum" attitude and get summarily chopped down?