Joe Louis vs Evander Holyfield:

james buster douglas for the title 10/25/90 ko3.this was a buster douglas who was in the best shape of his career coming off a victory of mike tyson 7 mths earlier.

 

i just feel that holyfield faced tougher guys in a different era and beat them. im kinda looking at it like this does the 1st time superbowl green bay packers beat the the cowboys of the 90s?both great during their periods of time but simply the cowboys through modern advancments had supererior athletes.i feel the same about holyfield louis.

 

Right, Holyfield fought in a good era and fought the best of them, but he also lost against almost all of them: Bowe, Moorer, Lewis, etc., he´s overrated IMO, sure, he´s a great and spectacular warrior but don´t overact now, Louis would TKO him...


Louis TKO 7 Holyfield

 

so you are saying douglas was happy with his achievement and just let himself go after beating tyson.there were no inbetween fights after tyson.holyfield was next.if anything i think buster was maybe scared and intimidated by holyfield.

 

I think Joe Louis on points.

Holyfield in his prime could conceivably hit and run with those crisp combinations and run rings around Louis, but only if Louis were to press the action aggressively.
Holyfield is a brilliant and skilful boxer/fighter, and a very respectable puncher, but he always thrived by setting a fast pace ON THE COUNTER.
Holyfield admits himself that he's a bit more ordinary against guys who dont want to come at him aggressively. He thrives when fighters are on the attack.

Joe Louis was smart, and could and would wait patiently. He'd draw Holyfield into a laidback but hard-hitting chess match, and I think his jab would win it for him. If he gets Holyfield hurt and goes for the kill he has a chance of scoring a KO or TKO, but at the same time that might be Holyfield's chance to score a KO or TKO too.
Most likely Joe Louis on points in a fairly close and beautifully technical boxing match.

 

im going to go to you tube and look at mr louis.by the way joe louis presented the 1972 heavyweight of the year trophy to my father in 72.my father speaks highly of joe but ive got my own boxing mind and insight.ive got the picture of the presentation im gonna try to post it if i can sneeek it out under my fathers nose.i do think joe was greatness i just have trouble matching the fighters of yesterday with modern era.

 

Just look at him how fat he was, he knew that he was very lucky to face such a bad version of Tyson, he knew even at his best he wouldn´t have a chance against Holyfield, who´s always in top shape...

 

I always felt that fuss about Douglas's weight and him being counted out was largely a way of discrediting Holyfield's performance.
Many wanted Tyson back as champ, and many "experts" had said Holyfield wasn't cut out for heavyweight division and that weight-training could not help him.
He put on a flawless and brilliant performance against Douglas, but critics were more interested in slating Douglas for being fat.

 

Yes, Douglas could have been in better shape but that's really just a sidenote to a brilliant championship-capturing performance.
I rarely (if ever) see the fight discussed without Douglas's conditioning being the focus.

"WKO3 Douglas" is really Holyfield's equivalent of Tyson's "WKO1 Spinks".

 

A fighter who gets floored in first round by a journeyman does have a paper-chin.