Joe Louis vs Ingemar Johansson

Joe Louis KO 1 Johannson. Johannson had a glass jaw, and was mentally fragile. Louis is the greatest fighter of all time, the greatest heavyweight of all time, and the greatest puncher of all time. He would track the stationary Ingemar down and end the fight with a blistering 6 punch combination. Johannson doesn't try to get up.

 

Louis certainly could get rocked and knocked down at some point of the fight, but I'd expect him to get back up, like he always did, and destroy Johansson. if Braddock can put Louis down with a single right hand I have to think Johansson would do it at some point.

 

No he wouldn't. Ingo had a glass jaw, and was mentally fragile. He practically ran out of the ring against Ed Sanders because he was afraid. London knocked Ingo out cold.

This would end quickly and effectively, and it would be a knockout win for Louis.

Don't make Ingo's Bingo out to be better than it is. It isn't as good a right hand as Marciano Suzy Q.

 

Joe Louis was the closest thing to the best heavyweight ever seen. On his day he beats everyone.

Let's not pretend that ingo was not something special in 1959 though. A fighter from any point in history who can knock out the two best heavyweights in the world in back to back fights deserves to be taken more seriously in a fantasy fight.

Granted it was a short prime but until he rematched Floyd ingo had established just about the most emphatic domination in just two fights amongst championship elite heavyweights we have seen.

It's right up there with Foreman wiping out Norton and Frazier in back to back fights.

 

Hardly the same but I get your point ... Foreman destroyed an undefeated Frazier who dominated the division from 67 to 72 including a beating of Ali and then destroyed a Norton who had recently beaten Ali and fought him to a razor thin questionable loss in a rematch .. A fluke KO of Machen followed by a KO of Patterson who was fighting absolute stiffs is not the same .. back to the thread .. Louis would crush him in a round or two .. Ingo's right may have been harder than Schmeling's but not by a lot nd it took Max dozen's of rights to stop Joe ..

 

Except those were not the two best heavyweights in the world. Sonny Liston was out there. We all know Sonny Liston was better than Eddie Machen and Floyd Patterson.

 

Ingemar was always considered one of the worst hwt champions. He would not get past the third round against Louis.

 

By 1957 Patterson still established himself as the best heavyweight in the world. Archie Moore, Bob Baker, Nino Valdes and Tommy Jackson were the next best heavyweights of that period.

Moore beat Baker and valdes. Floyd knocked out Moore. Baker beat valdes then Jackson beat Baker. Floyd knocked out Jackson.

1958 nothing happened to diminish Floyd status as the best heavyweight out there. He TKOd the unbeaten #3 contender after the #1 and #2 drew in a stinker of a fight.

The two easy fights Floyd took were either side of fights with #1 contenders. Radmacher came weeks after the Jackson showdown and London was merely a tune up for ingo since it came just weeks before their outdoor fight.

 

...AFTER he fought them.

 

No they weren't. By 1957, Archie Moore had stopped fighting the top 10 contenders in the heavyweight division, Baker was semi retired(losing often), and Valdes got absolutely destroyed twice by Eddie Machen and Zora Folley.

Folley and Machen were rated number 1 and 2 in 1957

 

Give it up. Floyd ducked both Eddie Machen and Zora Folley when they were rated number 1 and 2 in 1957. Damato wanted no part of either of those men, he's famous for over protecting Floyd.