Joe Louis vs Jack Dempsey

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    How? He was highly inconsistent and his resume is clearly weaker. Yeah, he beat Charles but in many tries and he lost to Louis and Marciano. Dempsey beat better fighters than Walcott and he lost far less often.

    I always felt that Jack's resume is overrated but he has better consistency, longevity and better main wins than Walcott. What is the case for Walcott here?
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you put a gun to my head I would pick Louis to win, but no money is going down.

    You have two of the best finishers in history going at it, and each has plenty of problems with the other stylistically!
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    To me he clearly has the better résumé.
    Ezzard Charles 2*
    Harold Johnson
    Joey Maxim 2*
    Elmer Ray 2*
    Jimmy Bivins
    Curtis Sheppard
    And arguably a win over Joe Louis.
    To me that's more impressive than Dempsey's.
    He set the record for oldest HW to win the title (even tho it was broken)

    And it's only by a place so I don't mind another way.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ability to sit on the divisions head, counts for something!
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Of course it does. But Walcott's division was better than Dempsey imo
     
  6. Tonto62

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    Dempsey inside 3 rounds.He overwhelms Louis.
    If Joe gets past the 6th round his chances increase dramatically ,imo.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not sure that it was.

    Walcott arguably had a genuinely weak division, arguably hindered by the world war!
     
  8. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are only 2 fighters who I would pick over a prime Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey isn't one of them.

    It would be a a TKO Stoppage in a fairly tense fight.
     
  9. 70sFan865

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    He also lost twice against Charles.
    Very good win.
    He also lost against both of them.
    Another good win.
    Sheppard was dangerous but it's not an accomplishement to beat him.
    Can't tell without full footage. Besides, he lost the rematch.

    Dempsey had wins over:
    Gunboat Smith *2
    Carl Morris *2
    Bill Brennan *2
    Fred Fulton
    Billy Miske *2
    Battling Levinsky
    Jess Willard
    George Carpentier
    Tommy Gibbons
    Luis Firpo
    Jack Sharkey

    I don't think it's debatable given how much losses Walcott has against the best competition.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    I think Walcott's résumé is still better, regardless of Losses. Consistency is a huge part in being a great fighter, so I can see Dempsey being over it (plus I love Walcott). And both are below Charles anyway, both top 15 HWs.
     
  11. louis54

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    Tunney on dempsey vs Louis, "both were awesome hitters, dempsey alone was awesome in his ability to take punch after punch and keep coming, and never flinch." I think dempsey was slightly better than even Louis ....the two best
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    A lot of posters think Louis would beat a young Mike Tyson who was arguably a super Dempsey but lose to regular Dempsey. I don't know, are you one of those?
     
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  13. robert ungurean

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    Yes
     
  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Active Member Full Member

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    Louis thought his best opponent was Billy Conn.
     
  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My head tells me Louis, my gut tells me Dempsey gets him out of there in 2 or 3.