Joe Louis vs. Jersey Joe Walcott II

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Not much happened here. Walcott far more mobile than Louis, but not throwing. Even.
    2. Even.
    3. Louis walks into yet another powerful right hand, which drops him for the third time (by Walcott). Walcott.
    4. Joe fought back well here. He got JJW onto the ropes a few times, and scored with good shots. Walcott always fired back in kind though. Louis.
    5. Both utilizing the left jab. Louis landed a good left-right. There was a lot of see-sawing with both having good moments. Even.
    6. Walcott landed a good left-right hook combination. Walcott.
    7. Not enough shown.
    8. Even.
    9. Even.
    10. Even.
    11. Walcott started this round jabbing and dancing a little, and feinting too. Joe landed a good right hand that drove Walcott into the ropes. He then proceeded to land several good right and left hooks to the head and the body. Walcott ducked and rolled out from underneath a few, and worked his way off the ropes by hitting Louis back with two good left hooks. As Walcott advanced on Louis, Louis scored with a great right hook, then a second one (less lethal), and a quick flurry of 5 or 6 good punches finishes it. Walcott goes down, but doesn't get up in time.

    Final score: 2-1-7. The fight was so darn even for most of the rounds shown, although rounds 7 thru 10 were highly condensed.

    Verdict: I know this one gets a lot of flack now, as it did 73 years ago, but I honestly would have liked to see the full fight. I enjoy it so much. Walcott gives another good performance, a classy performance, despite losing. And Louis gave one of his most underrated. Although Louis' best moment really boils down to the 11th round, it was really great to see Louis come back this well pre-WW2. I wouldn't call it a top 5 or anything, but this one definitely needs to mentioned more as one of Louis' victories.
     
  2. Jason Thomas

    Jason Thomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both Louis and Walcott look great to me. Walcott is very elusive, but Louis holds his own in this one, and my guess is the fight was close on the cards at the end.

    The knockout is one of the great ones on film, considering the quality of the opponent.

    It is interesting how big Louis looks. He was 213 and carries this weight very well. He looks in top shape. I have often wondered, looking at the post-war Louis. Is it possible to grow in your late 20's? Louis looks taller. Or is it just that he was fighting more upright?
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This must've been seen as a fun fight. Both down, both big punchers with high level skills. I think this is clearly Joe's best win. It's a great right hand to knock Walcott out, as well.
     
  4. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    clearly? Wow man.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Given the context (Louis being way past his prime) it might be the most impressive Joe win. I still prefer Baer or 2nd Schmeling due to sheer dominance though and he wasn't at his absolute peak then either.
     
  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s a top five Louis win for me.
     
  7. William Walker

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    I even think this would have been impressive for Louis even 7 years earlier. Louis had been floored five times in his career, four of them he was caught and surprised very early in the fight, and three of those came in the first round (Braddock, Galento, and Baer). The knockdowns Louis suffered vs. Walcott came early, but they weren't surprises. All three surprised Louis, but still had him hurt. Louis came back to win against Braddock, Galento, and Baer, but the rally against Walcott was much more impressive imo.
     
  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally believe Walcott gets a very raw deal when arguing about the greats. Think he would surprise a lot of guys in h2h matchups with his awkward style. He’d beat a lot of guys that night
     
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  9. Rollin

    Rollin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Worth noting that Walcott was urged to come forward more by the referee (crowd was getting itchy.)

    Otherwise he might have pulled it off.
     
  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, he ran away from Louis for the most of their first fight, so I kind of understand the referee.
     
  11. Fergy

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    I'll second that.
     
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  12. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Joe Louis, an underrated crowd pleaser. He's been always in exciting fights but not many notice it
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

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    One of the best most clutch knockouts ever captured on film. Blazing fast 6 punch combination. Louis had one last incredible finish left in him. Walcott was going to win that fight, Louis hurt him had a small window of opportunity and took it at age 34.
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    I prefer to refer to his bouts as “prolonged executions”
     
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  15. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Tony Galento
    Max Baer
    Buddy Baer
    Jim Braddock
    Arturo Godoy
    Jersey Joe
    Tami Mauriello
    Nathan Mann
    Bob Pastor ll
    Tommy Farr
    Billy Conn

    Are all the fights you can watch. I find most of them genuinely entertaining.

    I rate exciting fighters through 3 aspects. Their style, consistency and quality of their fights.

    I give Louis 7/10 for his style. He was simple and straightforwardly dangerous but was also vulnerable. He would repeatedly get dropped and staggered a lot of time and came back to knock his opponents out. Look at his fight against Walcott, Braddock, Conn, Galento and (Buddy) Baer where he was literally fell through the ropes.

    Consistency: 10/10 he was very consistent in putting up shows and competing in exciting fights.

    Quality: 6.5/10 tho he was consistent, but going back to what you said.. It does look like a prolonged execution (Mann, Baer & Galento fights go figure). When he fights, he could overwhelm his opponents quickly with his superior skills and knock them out brutally . Most of them are genuinely entertaining, but aren't upper echelon action.