Joe Louis vs. Joe Frazier

Frazier did indeed start slow, but it did NOT take him 5-6 rounds to start "smoking".

You really reveal yourself by continuing to push that nonsense, bubba.

 

I think prime Frazier is very viable against the Brown Bomber.

Louis didn't care much for pressure and Smokin Joe is going to apply it. I think Louis is going to get hit hard and often like never before in this fight.

 

Garbage. Anyone around during that time and active in boxing knows Joe did not start "Smoking" until rounds 5-6. Common knowledge and Joe said so HIMSELF. This was always the time frame one would look at Frazier coming on the strongest from the start of a fight. This was just as common knowledge as Joe not having a right hand a punch he was still trying to develop very very late in his career.

 

You simply don't know what you are talking about. I think you are a kid in Mum's basement using her computer.

Too bad Jimmy Ellis, Jerry Quarry, Bob Foster, Manuel Ramos, etc, aren't around to educate you on this "Joe didn't smoke until the 5th-6th round" malarkey. Maybe Tony Doyle, who at one time was a quite decent fighter and hopefully still around, can chime in here about your nonsense.

 

No Yancy it's you that have no idea what they are talking about.

Frazier said himself he was a slow starter and took him 5 rounds to start "smoking".

Unlike you I grew up in that era and was very close to the sport living near by NY and Philadelphia. Very very common knowledge.

 

This is classic stuff right here.

Joe Frazier, who as an amateur won Golden Glove titles 3 years running, won Gold at the 1964 Olympics and only ever lost to Buster Mathis as an amateur is "an exceedingly slow starter" and doesn't get going until round 5 or 6?

Somebody forgot to tell Joe!

 

14 kos inside 3 rds out of you first 28 fights prove you don't take 5 or 6 rds to start smoking, it's patently a contradiction .I'll take Louis ' own words in his autobiography over some hack written, ghosted comic every day of the week.I repeat an enraged Louis said he had to be restrained by Blackburn from going for the ko in the 2nd round he never had any intention of carrying Galento or anyone else.

 

You will believe Louis OWN WORDS? First his bio was written for him so one has to expect that every single nuance is not fully covered. Secondly watch "The way it was Louis vs Galento" where Louis in his own words tells everyone 35 years after the bout that indeed he wanted to carry Galento 10 rounds to punish him for the preflight insults and if he were not knocked down the bout would have gone 10 rounds. Those are REALLY Louis own words.

Again anyone close to the game in Fraziers time understood Joe was a very slow starter. Boxing 101.

 

The way you portray yourself as some kind of boxing insider is hilarious. You were around then? So was I, Louis was the champ when I was born,the difference is I don't claim any special insight or expertise about him.You preface many of your posts with," If you knew about boxing ","anyone who really knows boxing ,"etc You're just a fan like the rest of us,get over yourself mate your ego is showing!
You're not Eddie Futch!
Louis never carried anyone.

 

In this day and age many fights are readily available for people to scrutinize with their own peepers too

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You were a fan. I was involved in the sport. It is troubling that even as a fan you don't know Joe was a very slow starter. This is something you should understand even as a fan. Very common knowledge if you followed the game at that time.

Louis stated on film he wanted to carry Galento and would have if he was not knocked down in round three. It's Louis OWN WORDS.

 

His own words, 30 years after the event. Come down off Mount Sinai fella, get down with rest of us mere mortals.

 

Yes decades after the event......no reason to lie or try to alter the facts so many years past.

In fact he stated it at least twice during the broadcast.

He never thought to carry/punish any other opponent but Galentos pre bout insults bothered him so much this was what he decided to do. Louis own words on film no less!

 

Tell us how you were "involved in the sport",in what way were you? Fighter,trainer, promoter,referee,judge, cornerman? How were you involved?