Joe Louis vs. Joe Frazier

Pretty sure i remember a thread with his old account when he informed us all ( yet again ) how he attended Ali's training camp at Deer Lake and was pulled on it.

 

Pulled on it?

 

I think Frazier would give Louis serious problem with his aggressive style of getting in close as quickly as he could, but that ultimately Louis would end up chopping Frazier up and stopping him. I'd expect Louis be on the canvas at some point, but his punches would be doing more damage to Frazier as the rounds progressed and that by the 7th or 8th round Frazier's face would be chewed up.

The fight would swing more and more in Louis's favor as it went on due to his ability to inflict swelling/cut damage to opponents and because he obviously was such a dangerous puncher. Frazier would be game, but I think it'd be stopped in similar fashion to Galento, just after a more competitive fight and in the later rounds.

 

It means questioned in our street slang.

 

Aite

 

He has disappeared since I asked in what capacity he was, "involved in boxing"?

 

Can't see how Frazier could do well in this fight at all.

 

Well I see him doing better than Godoy,Galento,Simon,B Baer,to name a few.

 

They didn't do very well either.
I'm not sure he'd last anywhere near as long as some of those. For example Simon went 13 rounds, Godoy managed the 15 round distance. I can't see Frazier lasting near that long.

 

Yeah Arturo Godoy actually did okay in their first meeting, taking Louis the distance and even giving him some trouble at points. I can't see a fight between Joe Louis and Joe Frazier getting anywhere close to the distance. But I DO think it could be a great match.. Frazier had incredible hand speed along with a workrate that was off the charts for a heavyweight. He also had one of the best left hooks of all time and Louis was tagged or dropped by more than a few lefts.. Louis also said that he didn't like fighters who crowded him and Frazier as well all know was a nightmare of a swarmer.. I definitely think Louis would win this by stoppage at some point but I can't see it being an easy task.. A very exciting and crowd pleasing fight in all likelihood.

 

I see Louis taking Frazier's head off with uppercuts.
Pretty much like how Foreman did.

 

I pretty sure he did the same when asked about his '' visits '' to Deer Lake.
Surely if you were to have attended those training sessions you would have took some photos and Ali wasn't exactly camera shy.

 

The punches that Foreman hit Frazier with were dissimilar to the kinds that Louis typically threw though.. They were more like hooker-cuts which caught him at just the right angle. I also happen to think that Foreman packed more power in a single shot than Louis did, had a wider margin of height over Frazier than Louis, and caught him at a time when he was starting to slip... That's a lot of factors and differences to consider when making that comparison which is why I don't feel its applicable. If we want to flip it around and look at it the other way, Louis was decked with a left hook from Tony Galento who had nowhere near the hand speed, conditioning, skill or workrate of a Joe Frazier.. He was decked I believe twice from Walcott with left hooks and arguably should have lost that first decision. He was mauled by Marciano who's style was similar to Joe's although we'll discount that one because Louis was completely shot.. With all that said, I think Louis's lightening fast combos would eventually take their toll and break down Frazier for the stoppage sometime between rounds 6-9.. But Louis would have a serious fight on his hands and might hit the deck once or twice before its all over.

 

A bit of a 50-50 for me. If I favor anyone it's probably Frazier, but I can absolutely see the case for Louis. I do think the Foreman-Frazier comparison gets too much mileage, though.

 

One took him to a close decision, two of the others dropped him.Any of them in the same ball park as Frazier for ability?