Joe Louis vs Joe Frazier

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  1. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 22, 2007
    Max Baer likely hit a fair amount harder then Rocky. And Louis was totally shot when he fought Rocky.
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  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 23, 2019
    Frazier would have been knocked down for sure. But he would have gotten back up.
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    If Tony Galento's telegraphed uneducated hook found Louis' mandible, Frazier is gonna be all over dat.

    I just can't think of the high motor athlete like Joe that Louis ever faced.

    And I rate Louis very, very highly. I just think this match-up would be... as the woke kids say, "problematic".
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta We Do Chicken Right!! banned Full Member

    Sep 21, 2017
    Galento had an accurate, dynamic left hook
  5. Decker

    Decker Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    I'll take them one at the time.
    Carnera was stronger than either Joe but not as skilled, not close. I'd question his ring IQ the way he'd quickly get up while Max Baer kept dropping him. Baer Bros: Max never took the sport too seriously. He had a big right but Louis sharper, faster; Buddy was bigger than Max but no where near Louis ability. Simon was a very big, strong HW for that era - he was also slower than a sloth. They were bigger & stronger than Frazier but not as skilled.

    Louis vs Frazier ends similarly as Louis vs Marciano.
    Btw many of these posted theoretical match ups are weak, some are joke material. This is a good one.
  6. Decker

    Decker Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Must have been from all that spaghetti & beer he consumed while training.
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    Louis isn't as big and strong as Foreman. He won't be able to force Frazier back with pushing or just being physical. The Brown Bomber was quicker and more precise than George.
    Could go either way. Frazier coming in low bobbing and weaving could take away Louis's leverage and throw off his only weakness (balance). I think Frazier would have success with that hook once he got inside.
    Joe Frazier pulls a mild upset. Though at any point The Brown Bomber could land one of those 7 inch numbers that only he could. That was just God Given
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Maxie didn't actually have his right hand in the Louis fight, it was well known to be damaged/injured.
  9. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

    Sep 1, 2019
    Joe wasn’t telling him anything new with that was he
  10. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Active Member Full Member

    Apr 29, 2020
    Yea, like this break down, Mendoza ha done his homework, I share his prognosis.
  11. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Not sure about this one but leaning towards Frazier stopping Louis, keeping him under pressure and cracking those hooks in.
    I know it is a risky danger fight for Frazier but I see Godoy Givin Joe fits then times it by a hundred with the Smoke.
  12. Marcus_Italicus

    Marcus_Italicus New Member Full Member

    Oct 13, 2019
    Louis wins by knockout. The Bomber is more accurate than Foreman, faster, with more varied and better combinations. Bad opponent for Frazier, aggressive boxer with high motor, but not with the same power and technique of Louis. Frazier could only win in a war of attrition, with his stamina and "smoke", but Louis would finish it first.
  13. Decker

    Decker Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Hmm I've either forgot that or wasn't aware. Tip of the hat. Was it injured in a prior fight?
  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Two of my favorites but prime for prime I think Joe has the perfect style to beat Louis. Possible by stoppage but totally confident on points
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Not sure of the details mate, I just know that it's widely accepted that Baer was injured. Not that it would've made much difference.
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