Joe louis vs larry holmes

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  1. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    this one is a fantasy match where i have no doubt about the winner, i pick joe louis clearly by clean ko, count of 10, larry was made for a finisher and accurate puncher like louis, larry was not mobile enough like a 60s ali to avoid and frustrate louis, larry was more a boxer-puncher than a stylist, and he traded blows with punchers, i can´t see another final for holmes, louis would catch him with a right hand(like shavers) simply this time the right hand would not come alone , it would be a combo of 4 o4 5 blows, larry would get up but louis would attack once and again until that larry decides to keep himself in the floor(like he did with tyson) but this time in his prime. larry did not have hitting power enough to get too much respect of louis, joe louis traded blows with baer . louis would have stylistical advantage here, a great right hand and great finisher( kryptonite of larry). it is my opinion, now i want to know yours, thanks
     
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  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holmes would dominate Louis with his speed and movement. It's like the Schmelling 1 and Conn fights to the power of infinity.
     
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  3. heavy_hands

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    but billy conn fought very different to larry, conn was moving and he was smaller than holmes and faster so louis had more problems catching him, larry was more aggressive and he would trade with louis i think
     
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  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holmes was more than capable of outboxing Louis. Could he keep it up over fifteen,though ? If he gets drawn into a slugging match,Louis stops him.
     
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  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think Conn's faster than Prime Holmes, I'd go with Holmes being the faster, allot rangier and a master of distance and angles. Holmes can box beautifully on the backfoot if necessary but he could simply hold the centre of the ring and beat Louis to the punch

    He has all the intangibles, very tough, very durable, very strong and great stamina.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If Holmes can stay focussed and give a masterful performance, he'll be okay. He was more mobile in his prime than Louis, had the reach, the jab, the uppercut, and could take a punch better than probably 98% of the best heavyweights we can think of... If he goes in there with his head up his ass and gets sloppy like he did against Snipes, he might end up getting pummeled without a chance at getting off the hook..
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always wondered if Holmes was actually better off fighting bigger fighters with that piercing jab if his. I don't think he was nearly as effective against much smaller fighters. I think Louis wins by stoppage, while slightly behind on the cards, but I'm not ruling out Larry taking it on points. His vulnerability to the straight right and being against the greatest finisher the heavyweight division has ever seen doesn't sit too well for me.
     
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  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis had one of the best right hands and a few versions of it and he followed up with his hook and Jab, IMO he is a different class than the best of Holmes Louis by KO and yes I bet the house
     
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  9. gentleman jim

    gentleman jim gentleman jim Full Member

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    I don't know about this one. Larry never met a fighter who was as both technically sound and dangerously powerful as Joe Louis. Joe could parry a jab and counter with devestating effect and if he hurt you, you were finished. Shavers and Snipes had Larry on ***** street but couldn't finish him. Louis would've. But would he have gotten Larry to that point? Or could Holmes stay away while piling up enough points to win? Every puncher Larry faced had him in trouble but wasn't skilled enough to finish the job. That wouldn't be the case with Joe Louis. It's either Larry by close decision or Joe by ko....I'll go with Joe by ko....for now.
     
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  10. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every puncher? That's a huge exageration. Larry was only in trouble a handful of times in his entire career.
     
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  11. KOTF

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    Both would KO prime George Foreman fairly easily
     
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  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Holmes would have beaten Louis.
     
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  13. devon

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    Louis could be outboxed on the outside. And Holmes was one of the best. I also don't think Louis could knock out Holmes due to his chin.
     
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  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Larry Holmes by late round TKO.

    He would use side to side movement and keep Louis from getting set. Joe was very disciplined and wouldn't throw a punch unless he was in range and set to punch.

    Holmes is the bigger and faster man with the better mobility. Holmes had a very good chin/recovery ability. Also Holmes hits hard enough to get Joe Louis`s respect. His jab was hard and his right hand had enough pop to get the job done.

    He would soften Joe up for a late stoppage.
     
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  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Pretty much how I see it. Holmes had a better jab than Louis too.
     
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