Joe Louis -vs- Lennox Lewis:

Because he kept crouching down so low that his elbows touched the canvas.

 

I think in some ways that the chins of both fighters are on a level where they could not form part of any sensible fight plan.

The fight plan would have to work if their oponents chin was better than Oliver McCall or it would not be a fight plan.

 

Well, I suppose it depends on what one means by "fall." It's clear to see in that clip, Lewis stumbles forward just as he's waving it off. I call that "falling forward." Maybe you call it something different. The bottom line is that Lewis was on ***** street and he could have gotten hurt had the ref allowed it to continue.

 

I didn't see him falling forward. He was self-supported, and holding his guard up signaling to continue. Within an instant of the fight being called off, he raised his arms in protest. If he was still buzzed, I doubt he would have reacted so quickley. Sure, there's a chance that McCall may have finished him, but we don't know that for sure. The shot that McCall floored him with, looked like a flash punch that Lewis walked into at the right time. Lewis took numerous hard shots throughout his career, by far greater punchers than McCall. Therefore, I would hesitate to label Lewis as "chiny"

 

If Lewis had never fought the fighters he did, you would probably come on here saying "Imagnie what Klitschko would do to him" or "Power is the last thig to go, so Tyson would knock him out" or "Tua hit harder than McCall and Rahman, so he'd KO Lewis too".

There is no logic in what you say regarding Lewis. Ever.

Lewis had a better chin than Louis, and would knock him out in 6.

 

But in some of those clinches, Godoy stood straight up. Louis was just content to let the ref break them.

 

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You've GOT to be joking! Joe Louis was stopped twice in his career, against great fighters like Schmeling and Marciano, once when he was quite green and once when he was quite old. And, it took many rounds to do it.

Lewis was taken out early by second-rate heavyweight contenders, in the heart of his career, when he held the title. I think it's pretty obvious who has the better chin.

 

Louis would KO Lewis inside of 5. LL don't got the chin for the bomber.

 

i always regarded lewis as a good BIG heavyweight with good boxing skills,would he be as effective if he was louis, size?.lewis would have to keep the fight at long range with long jabs or i think louis would gradualy take him apart.were talking about argubly the gretest puncher ever and the most accurate.

 

Louis was somtimes happy to go limp in the clinches and conserve his energy but if it worked against him he could get nasty. The bigger you were the less tolerant he was of being clinched and the more of a target you were.

Watch the Carnera and Baer brothers fights to see the intolerant Louis in action. They should in theory be the oponents who could most profit from clinching him.

 

Not even arguably.

Lewis was twice taken out by single punches. While Ramhan and McCall were big punchers they were nothing that Louis hadnt faced.

Louis was only ever knocked out after a sustained beatdown over multiple rounds and then by all time greats.

You have to credit Louis with the better chin based on the facts.

 

A sustained beatdown which came against a 190 pound fighter, as opposed to one who was 230. You asked us to stick to the facts, and that's precisely what I'm doing. Additionaly, Lennox tested his chin numerous times against Golata, Ruddock, Morrison, Mason, Bruno, Klitschko, Mercer, and Tua, all of whom hit harder than either McCall or Rahman. Therfore, this explodes the myth that the Rahman and McCall fights exploited Lewis as having no chin. I would also venture to say that the above list of men possesed more power than a lot of guys Louis was decked by such as Galento, Walcott, and Braddock to name just a few.

What's more, you're not addressing the fact that McCall merely knocked Lewis down-Not out. There's a big difference. Earlier, I posted a thread to a youtube link, showing McCall-Lewis I. The footage shows that the fight may have ended in an early stoppage, as Lewis was clearly on his feet by the count of 6, and once he composed himself, held his gloves up signaling to continue. If a referee jumped in and stopped the fight everytime Joe Louis got in trouble or knocked down, he likely wouldn't have much of a resume. The Rahman fight came when Lennox was 35 years old, yet he came back in the rematch and regained his title with a knockout win. Did Joe Louis ever regain the belt post 35?

Obviously we'll never know for sure who had the better chin, but I disagree with your rather strong conviction of:

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Joe Louis is the better boxer and pound for pound hits with more power. However Lennox Lewis would nultulize that with his abality to use his reach and size advantage. Lewis on his best nite would keep his distance from Louis even on his best nite. The outcome depends on how much punishment Louis can take. This is pretty much a supper heavey vs a cruserweight.
Lewis 10-12 round stopage.