You are hard work here! If somebody says that they are not threatened by people holding different opinions, it does not imply that they anticipate being physically assaulted. It means that they are comfortable with people holding a different opinion from them, and do not feel their ego threatened by it, as you clearly do. You need to go back to the drawing board on a number of issues!
With Joe it starts and soon ends with one punch. If he dings you, he does not let you off the hook. The best finisher the division ever saw. Only problem is that Lewis isnt too far behind him in that category.
I would be more than interested to see how many people who voted for Lewis, had actually posted on the classic forum before!
Glad you took the time to read the earlier posts, I've pulled my back this morning and wouldnt fancy being knocked about. Looking at the footage of Louis you are immediately struck by how accurate ,precise, and above all calm his onslaughts were.Im going to make a thread asking who was the most accurate punching heavyweight champion,he would be my choice.:good
I think this is what you are referring to. "Nobody has claimed that Carnera was as good as Lewis here, but I have to insist that he was as big. "LOUIS FOUGHT PEOPLE WHO WERE AS BIG AS LEWIS ,PEOPLE WHO HIT AS HARD AS LEWIS, AND A WHOLE HEAP OF PEOPLE WHO TOOK A PUNCH BETTER THAN LOUIS" Janitor . Nobody has claimed that Carnera was as good as Lewis here, but I have to insist that he was as big. Louis fought people who were as big as Lewis, people who hit as hard as Lewis, and a whole heap of people who took a punch better than Lewis. Of course he didn’t fight Lewis, but it is hard to see what else he could have done in his own era, to make his case here. "The enlarged part of your post is pure, unadulterated, ****. Either PROVE your claim or shut up. Other posters have claimed that Louis also KO'd " many men " as big or bigger than LL. Again prove it, or shut the fvck up. " Foxy. Now he denies he said it. This is the loon who called me a liar.atsch Which I have since proved by film footage I am not. To say Foxy has "issues" is like saying Hitler wasn't all that fond of the Jews.
Poor old Fay, she is delusional as well as a liar. There exists no footage of Joe Louis knocking out a guy the size of Lennox with ONE punch ( which is what she wrote earlier in the thread ) therefore she cannot have posted such an example, and consequently she has proved nothing, other than her propensity for lying. To say she is honest would be akin to making Walter Mitty, the minister for information.
McFay. " Louis KO'd men as big, or bigger than Lewis, sometimes with one punch " Foxy. Liar. He didn't. It's as simple as that. You see sometimes people can be mistaken, but McFay claims to have this endless supply of magazines, and reference books, and a self proclaimed encyclopedic knowledge, therefore the above claim regarding Joe Louis can only be a deliberate lie.
How the blazes have you come to the conclusion that Lewis being KOd with a single punch, is in any way favourable to your argument?
I see Lennox is edging the poll, now. I just hope the same arguments apply to Lewis-Ali thread I am about to start!
Lennox is a great fighter but he was simply awful against faster men with quicker hands. In the era that Lennox fought not many actualy punched faster than he did but that is not to say Lennox was historically a fast handed heavyweight. He was perfect for his Times. Just as the division got bigger it slowed down. Along came Lennox. he had the height, weight, amateur pedigree and experience to cash in on heavyweights no faster than he was. But against Joe Louis he would be beaten to the draw. Lewis's only hope is to maul and smother Joe like an octopus in an effort to tire him down to a slower fisted target he can work with...but it's a long shot. Louis would knock him out.
I agree, it still amazes me to watch Louis dispatch many styles, sizes and shapes and he was always better the 2nd time around. I spoke to many boxing trainers from the past and they spoke of the perfect punching technique and Joe could do it all from a 6 inch bomb to a long or short right,left hook and jab he had early,late power and he was the ultimate finisher.
I still haven't seen a better combination puncher at Heavyweight. He threw an outrageous combination against Max Baer that included a right uppercut and an overhand right. It was a four punch combo in the blink of an eye. In fairness, Lennox was good in this regard, too.