Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    Joltin" Joe by a 8th round KO.
     
  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What we must keep in mind though is the massive influence of illegal performace enhancers in sports.
    I can buy into the 'bigger, better, faster, stronger' argument to a point, but how much of that is due to plain good old-fashioned cheating?

    I reckon if someone could wave a magic wand that made any and all drugs magically vanish, we'd see not one record broken at the next olympics.

    The only time this happened to my knowledge was with Vince McMahon's ill-fated WBF bodybuilding organization in the early 90's.
    Vince wanted all his competitors clean, and they were thoroughly drug tested.
    The result was that without exception, all the athletes came into the shows looking nowhere near as good as they did when they competed for the IFBB. Some came in looking like utter ****.
    The only guy to look anything like his previous form was Gary Strydom, and there were strong suspicions he had figured out a way to cheat the tests.
    When the WBF dissolved, the competitors were reinstated with the IFBB, and like magic they all returned to looking shredded and huge.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    We have had the debate on whether boxing should be expected to progress like athletics a number of thimes with different opinions being put forward.

    The bottom line however is that the best heavyweights are just born. A fighter like Joe Louis or Muhamad Ali is an aberation. There will probably be nothing like either of them for the next 100 years and however deep the talent pool you had to work with you would never be able to make a copy.

    That if nothing else adds a singular dimension to boxing.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    According to War Baby there were more liscenced boxers in Britain at the end of WWII than there were in the world in 2002.
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Says it all really.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    How many were there in War Baby, and how many are there today?
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The difference was no insignificant.

    I will rake out the book and post the figure later today.
     
  8. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seamus good luck with your business post when you can different opions
    are very healthy and always interesting,just ignore my spellimg mistakes:lol:
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Don't disapperar Seamus, you are one of the fun guys here ! Good luck by the way.
     
  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Seamus is a shite poster anyway, good riddance.

    Anyway, I been gone a week and this is STILL going on :rofl unbelievable
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If this doesn't hit 1,000 replies I'll be annoyed.
     
  12. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh i think it will:D
     
  13. fists of fury

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  14. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fighters that louis beat but did well seemed to get a rematch ,would or could vitali change anything for a rematch assuming to done well enough to get a rematch
     
  15. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis was scary in rematches, as was someone like Hagler.
    The ability to convingingly beat the guy in a rematch who gave you problems the first time around is for me one of the hallmarks of a top-class fighter.