Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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I've always been quite amused by how nonchalant he looked there.

 

What I'll agree with is that smart, clever boxers gave him trouble, and that he was knocked down a little too much. But he was only knocked out twice, so the knockdowns, while noted, in the greater scheme of things don't hold my attention too much.
What counts for me is how he responded to getting knocked down.

 

to be honest mendoza i think sanders has a good chance but all the rest are going to be very close and could go either way although i would favour buddy in most apart from johnson who i cant see beating buddy .in a way it will be sad if that is the level of opposition that vitali will be judged on.


and i mssed the 1000

 

Yes, your point is valid.

 

Yep, pretty much.

 

Buddy Baer Should not be underestimated. To this day he holds some sort of record for number of first round knockouts. He probabloy actualy packed more power than Viitally and at the verry least he should be regarded as a Shannon Briggs style puncher.

If he had come along in the period between Lewis retiring and today he would almost certainly have held a version of the heavyweight title at some point.

 

Actually both Tye Fields and Shanon Briggs have more first round KO's.

 

I can't pick him over Chag, Briggs, Brewster or even Valuev.

 

Valuev might be questionable, but I agree with everyone else. Neither Bear's record on paper nor his footage on film impress me much. Sure, I have no doubts that he hits like a mule kicks, but he was also lacking in pretty much every other aspect of the game. Having some 24 first round KO's to your credit sounds good, if that's all you list it as, but when many of those numbers came against fighters of the 0-1 or 4-12 variety, well it sort of loses its..........Spunk..

 

Buddy Baer probably beats Hasim Rahman.

 

How the hell is this thread still going?