Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

But Vitally is nothing like Schmeling stylisticaly. He is a lot more like Primo Carnera.

Schmeling was also able to do what he did because he counterpunched at mid range. He basicaly had to walk through Louis's combinations for four rounds to land one overhand right.

 

His stetson was better.

 

I knew some poop like that would be replied.

 

I would not pick Vitali Klitschko to beat Joe Louis, but frankly I think that the claim that Vitali was almost exactly like Carnera has reached the point of being overstated, and in all honesty innacurate.

Looking at film of Carnera, I can say that almost every punch he threw was telegraphed whereas Klitschko's weren't. He was also a lot easier to throw off blance, and neither his jab nor defense were quite as polished as Vitali's. I will also say that Klitschko's chin and yes even his power is more proven, especially considering that these things were generally tested against men who were larger in size, than most of the ones Carnera faced.

Did Vitali Klitschko and Primo Carnera have similarities? Yes. Were they identical twins from both a physical and stylistic standpoint? Hardly... Was Louis's win over Carnera an automatic indication that he'd beat Vitali? No. I don't think so.

 

I agree that Carnera, nor Buddy Baer or Abe Simon for that matter, aren't Vitali but they are closer to Vitali than Billy Conn and Jersey Joe Walcott are.

Has Vitali ever fought anyone like Louis?

 

No, he has never fought anyone like Louis, nor even close.. He has however, fought several men who possesed both good handspeed and ample power. Herbie Hide and Corrie Sanders are two examples that come to mind, though neither is remotely on the level of a Louis.

 

No, but several pages back, some posters did say something to the effect of seeing no differences between Carnera and Klitschko, along with claiming that the opposing side was unable to convince them of any such differences..

 

I think the gap in quality is quite clear between Klitschko and Carnera. However, what should not be ignored is their shared approach to fighting. When discussing hypothetically, one cannot errantly toss out the closest corroborating element in the equation. The fact is, Joe has seen the likes of Vitali before, but the reverse does not ring equally true. I personally think the action will be dominated by the Bomber (not to say that Klitschko will not battle bravely). I see Vitali's jab and I find it to be the kind of jab that Louis defended well against. He, Louis, also slipped under the grasp of his opponents to open a hiding to the body like few others before or since. He might be pestered by the hook and that up-punch; that might keep him busy for a while. The single greatest thing Klitschko has going for him, however, is that Louis will be the one coming forward, so Klitschko will be fighting his fight as usual. I don't think it will be as effective against Joe Louis though.

 

Hide and Sanders did give Vitali trouble, for about a round...

 

Several posts were made before I was finally satisfied with my own. I have to reiterate that the similarities are very apparent between Klitschko and Carnera. I think it's absolutely imperative to stress that. The differences, Magoo already touched on them. Basically, Vitali has more dimensions to his game and he has dependable tools on his side like his vastly superior athleticism.

 

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