Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I am going to be diplomatic here, and confine myself to saying ,you have touched on an entirely different subject,which has no correlation to the one being discussed as far as I can see.
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    Vitali is not Wlad.

    Ibeauchi defeated Byrd by almost exclusively using his left, scoring with hooks and setting up the stoppage with an uppercut. In their rematch, Wlad controlled Byrd with his jab and set up the stoppage with a big hook. A right hand is a good weapon to have against Southpaw but exclusively it is going to be difficult to defeat a peaking Chris Byrd with that and that alone.

    I haven't seen Wlad/Byrd I in some time though. I do recall Wlad using his left as a measuring weapon to create distance and shut out that pesky Byrd jab.
     
  3. TheGreatA

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    Wladimir did use it as a measuring stick but then again so did Vitali. His arm was not exactly hanging like Danny Williams's was against Mark Potter, he did use it but the pain seemingly became excruciating at some point and he decided it was not worth it to continue. Perhaps missing many of his punches aggravated the injury.

    I'm not going to judge Vitali based on the loss but this particular performance, which was brought up earlier as proof of Vitali's skills, did not look impressive in my eyes, injury or not.
     
  4. mcvey

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    I wasn't impressed with Vitali in this fight either, he was way too cautious against a light hitter he dwarfed.
    Its possible Merchant was right when he said "he does not have the heart of a champion", but after his gutsy performance against Lewis ,I give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
  5. KTFO

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    Nowadays a champion's face has to look like a shot tomatoe if he wants to get credit.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Well, fighting on the back foot against a man 34 lbs lighter and 8 inches shorter , who lacks power , sure wont do it.
     
  7. KTFO

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    Ali
    Lewis

    Do I have to continue.....?
     
  8. janitor

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    Whatever the merits of this style it is one that you could have been penalised and even disqualified for in Louis's era.
     
  9. KTFO

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    Not really.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Janitor is correct ,because otherwise Jersey Joe Walcott would probably have been crowned Champion after the first Louis fight.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Ali fought off the back foot against big punchers , though he was generally circling anti clockwise, but he also launched attacks ,Lewis didnt go backwards much, he stood ring centre and countered
    .Vitali was faced with a light hitting built up middleweight and he treated him like KING KONG.
    Retreating directly backwards at the first sign of any agression.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    Vitali bolts like a scalded cat whenever someone invades his comfort zone.
     
  13. Seamus

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    And they damn near all- his opponents- don't make the final bell.

    What is his trick?
     
  14. McGrain

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    I'd agree with this sentiment as far as it goes. It's not Vital's job to change a style that works very well. It's his opponents job to rip him out of that comfort zone.
     
  15. fists of fury

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