Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KOTF, Aug 17, 2009.


  1. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,569
    82
    Sep 28, 2009
    a word to the wise or in KTFO's case, the not so wise, steer clear of politics or any and all fields that involves debating. they wont take to kindly to your school yard tactics that your using on ESB.
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,441
    9,428
    Jul 15, 2008
  3. KTFO

    KTFO Guest

    Carnera was an unskilled tool of 'the mob', just like Joe Louis. If Louis was techniqually that accomplished then tell me why he was floored several times in his entire career. Was it a lucky punch? Were the opponents that good?
    The Klitschko bros got by far more boxing skills than Primo Carnera. If you want to compare Carnera to Valuev then do so, but surely not the Klitschko bros.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,241
    157
    Mar 4, 2009
    So you can't be a technician if you get floored every once in a while? How do you explain the fact that Wladimir Klitschko has taken the count more times than Joe Louis in less fights? Is he not a technician?
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,745
    29,125
    Jun 2, 2006
    This has to make the golden century of posts!
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,591
    27,260
    Feb 15, 2006
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,591
    27,260
    Feb 15, 2006
    That is the only way you will ever see Vitaly win.
     
  8. KTFO

    KTFO Guest


    List please. Then I'll check it. Then my answer. :D
     
  9. KTFO

    KTFO Guest



    I saw him winning several times already. I don't know what other occupations he got in his life, but those were the footages, yes.
     
  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,241
    157
    Mar 4, 2009
    Louis knocked down against

    Schmeling I x2
    Braddock x1
    Galento x1
    B. Baer x1
    Walcott I x2
    Walcott II x1
    Marciano x2

    Total: 10 times in 69 fights

    Wladimir knocked down against

    Pannell x1
    Puritty x1
    Sanders x4
    Brewster x1 (standing 8 count, fell down after the bell sounded)
    Williamson x1
    Peter x3

    Total: 11 times in 56 fights
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,745
    29,125
    Jun 2, 2006
    And 8 of the 10 knockdowns scored against Louis were acheived by men who held the title at some point,and at least 2 of them when he was clearly past it.
    Wlad has been knocked down by journeymen, and,whilst in his prime.
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    ...Been gone a week and nothing's changed. Whew.
     
  13. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,935
    92
    Aug 21, 2008
    And all but two of those men were HOFers.
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,241
    157
    Mar 4, 2009
    And in all but two fights, against Marciano and Schmeling obviously, Louis got up from the knockdowns as if it was nothing and went on about his business.
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    Vitali makes guys miss in every fight that goes a few rounds. In fact you could make a defensive highlight video on Klitschko. Vitali might be the best defensive puncher of all time.

    I think its more impressive to see Lennox Lewis, Byrd or Sanders draw air, than to slip in on a somewhat ponderous Carnera and beat him to the punch. Of Course Vitali uses his legs, is much smarter, almost never nailed by a combination, has an active jab, a better defense etc.... So the video here only shows what Louis could do to someone who lacks what Vitali had.