Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This injury whilst winning **** is massively overstated.

    He won 5 rounds against Byrd on my card before quitting. I'd have expected Byrd to sweep the remaining rounds had Vitali continued.

    Against Lewis he had a slender 2 point lead. He also had half of his face removed by Lewis and his punches.

    Winning handily involves a lead of more than 2 points. Both injuries relate directly to the opposition. He threw far too many shots that missed Byrd by a mile, no wonder his shoulder went. He didn't get injured by Lewis he got beaten up and stopped.

    The main point is he isn't proven above a certain level so picking him over arguably the best HW in history is far too much of a leap for me.
     
  2. FlyingFrenchman

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    An avenged loss doesn't erase the loss! Schmeling whipped Louis' ass the first time. Vitali is almost as old as Jesus and still hasn't come close to losing since the loss to Lewis.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Louis, in his prime was never beaten.

    Vitali, in his prime, was beaten once.

    So let's put the losses to bed for once and all.
     
  4. dyna

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    Lewis won the last 2 rounds.
    The initial advantage Vitali had on the outside was gone.

    Vitali just lacked the finishing touch.
     
  5. dyna

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    Louis in his prime got beaten by a German ex middleweight

    Vitali in his prime got beaten by h2h the GOAT.

    Excuse for Louis:He didn't train well the first time
    Excuse for Vitali:He had to fight Lewis.
     
  6. McGrain

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    **** off you idiot.
     
  7. dyna

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    [url]http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9041&cat=boxer[/url]

    168 lbs, ok ok I made a mistake.
    A German ex smw.

    Every fighter has flaws.
     
  8. BadDog

    BadDog Active Member Full Member

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    so what if Byrd or Lewis won rounds off an injured guy. If I run against Usain Bolt and he injures himself and goes down does it means that I am faster then him? At least Lewis inflicted the injury on Vitaly so it's a legit win(even though not convincing, especially because he retired right away), but Byrd was just lucky.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    How is in his prime after less than two years as a pro? At the same stage in his career, Vitali was fighitng career heavyweight Francesco Spinelli :lol:
     
  11. dyna

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    A lot of Byrd his opponents have complained about their shoulders.

    If you miss your hooks it's going to hurt your shoulder, Byrd won a close fight.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Such a poor post I'm not even replying.
     
  13. dyna

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    Ok, you're right about that one.

    Though Louis could have been like Tyson in that regard.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Who said it erased it? It's rightfully known as one of the best victories in hw history.

    Vitali retired for 4 years and has not faced a top 3 opponent since a fat overweight Peter. No wonder he hasn't lost when he's fighting guys like Briggs, Gomez, Charr and Chisora.
     
  15. McGrain

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    I don't think so dyna. Although, you can say he was technically boxing in during his physical peak though.