Joe Louis vs Vitali - the missing poll.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Nov 14, 2017.


Who wins?

  1. Joe Louis by decision.

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
  2. Joe Louis by KO.

    19 vote(s)
    57.6%
  3. Draw!!!!!!!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Vitalia by decision.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Vitali by KO.

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The debate in the other thread looks to be done and dusted. Time to vote!
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why is vitali being matched with ATGS?!
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    So you can cast your vote for him.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ask Lennox Lewis......
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Joe Louis off to sizzling start.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you again... ha#

    he was a stand in for Lennox, he wasnt automatically matched with him. And we all know what happened so why ask lennox, just google it to learn it was a 6th round stoppage.
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he was up on the scorecards against this ATG.....
     
  8. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ask Chris Byrd ! An unprepared featherfist beat the prime Vitali...
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahahaha funny listening to the idiots claiming victory for Byrd.........
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Opting out to debate me, but creating a meaningless poll that hides who voted for whom and prevents explanation as to why they voted the way they did? JT you're brilliant!

    For those who want to know:

    I listed the best Louis fought in the 1930's in another thread. Clearly, most would not be in the top ten today, and the best he fought did the following:

    1 beat him via KO - Schemling
    4 knocked him down - Braddock, Schmeling, B. Baer, Galento
    2 Others took many rounds from Louis in a decision loss - Godoy, Farr

    Those were the best Joe Louis fought from 1936-1940. A 5 year period.

    Post that, he was gifted a decision from Walcott, got badly beaten by Charles, and later 10 counted older vs Marciano. Those three were the best Joe Louis fought post 1940.

    For sure, Vitali Klitschko would beat all of the above men, and struggle far less than Joe Louis did.

    But vote for Louis if you must. He is popular and Vital has many detractors here

    For those who use logic, if Joe Louis' competition wasn't very good, and Joe Louis struggled with them, what does that tell you about Louis?
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017
  11. janitor

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    Chris Byrd was in fact victorious.

    Just saying.
     
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By default not through his skill, don't play silly beggers.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Vitali would probably struggle less because of his style combined with his physical attributes. Vitali had height and length that Louis didn't have and thus could fight in ways Louis couldn't vs six foot tall men.

    Many think that prime Holmes would beat a prime Foreman, but did Foreman struggle with Ken Norton like Holmes did? Shavers defeated Norton in an even more dominant fashion than Foreman and Holmes went life and death with Norton, yet Holmes twice beat Shavers decisively (minus that close call in fight #2).
     
  14. janitor

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    No not by default.

    He fought a smart fight, and of course was lucky.

    There is no moral victory if an injury contributes to your loss.

    It is still a straight up loss.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitally would have done this.

    Vitally could have done that.

    But he didn't.

    You are coming across as being a bit like a tramp scavenging through a dustbin, desperately scavenging for some scraps of an argument to support your hero.

    In the end all you can come up with, is what you say he could have done, but never came close to doing in real life.
     
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