Joe Louis Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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No composure or accuracy whatsoever. Just flailing away. Primo had better rhythm than that.

 

You were banned last year, for calling guys like Patterson and Frazier bums.

You can't really believe that Frazier wouldn't last more than a round with Wlad? We must be watching different Wladimir Klitschko's.

How did Ali's footwork amount to running away?

You're either having a laugh, or you've never boxed. Because nobody who's fought, either in a gym, or amateur and pro, would ever dismiss Ali's footwork as running away.

Footwork is probably the most important attribute to a fighter. Ali's footwork made guys miss, kept them off balance, and he was able to counter and stay out of harms way. His balance and his timing were great. His footwork in the mid 60's was a joy to watch, and his movement would have been a nightmare for someone like Wlad to deal with.

Cross trainer will eventually lose patience with you, like the rest of us have, if you keep writing utter nonsense.

It's been fun though. :good

 

I agree. That wasn't in anyway impressive, and he was lucky in those fights.

 

Peter was one of the worst conditioned HWs to ever mix it at world level. At 25 he couldn't keep up with a near 40 year old fat James Toney.

 

Laughable!

Wlad fights on the highest skill level possible?

Like against Povetkin?

So Wlad favours a 1-2, then a clinch, because that's all he needs to do?

Yet boxing has progressed, and fighters today are better conditioned and have more skills?

Why would the HW king clinch, if he didn't have to?

Do you think Wlad could have 1-2, then clinched the following fighters:

Holmes
Tyson
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Lewis
Louis
Holyfield

??

If Wlad is so great, why was he on the floor three times against a limited Samuel Peter?


Out of interest, give me your honest opinions of the outcomes, if Wlad had fought the above fighters, while prime.


Also, who do you think would win in a fight between Wlad and Vitali?


Thanks.

 

:good

 

Here's Mike Tyson, missing away vs Buster Mathis Jr.


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This nonsense is why nobody can debate with you. If I was new on this forum, or new to you, I would be more patient. But I'm not.

Why don't you ask Cross Trainer if he agrees that Ali's footwork in the 60's, was him just running away?

Also, you could ask him if Frazier would only have lasted a round with Wlad?

Do you need reminding that Wlad in his 20's, got beat by Sanders, Puritty and Brewster, and in his early 30's, went life and death with Sam Peter?

How's your memory?

Frazier would have caused Wlad problems.

 

Frazier could bob and weave...that style alone kept the big heavies back in the day from prospering.

The bob and weave style is extinct in the heavy division.

 

I hope Dino doesn't mind me answering this.

Mike had only boxed one round in over 4 years at this point. He was extremely rusty. He'd done nothing since fighting Ruddock, apart from blowing out Peter McNeely.

If you want to do a comprehensive breakdown of skills, between Mike and Wlad, it won't look good on Wlad.

 

See how he had to ignore the picture of little Chambers and the fact he took Wlad 12 rounds.
He's just spamming from HW blog again.

Frazier would blow Wlad away.

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Id like to see Wlads 'minimilst' style deal with that.

 

wlad is good at longevity and motivation, maintaining a good level of ability over long periods. this is his strength.

but we should never invent fictiotious H2H abilities for him when its obvious frazier and Tyson and Louis would have cracked his prime chin that was utterly destroyed by journeymen and retirees.

Instead Wlad fans should be happy AND REJOICE in the fact that Wlad brings qualities to HW history that guys like Tyson didn't have, that of continuity and commitment.

Why cant you guys just be happy that he is superior in some areas, instead of making up fake superiority in others? Frazier fans don't try to pretend that Joe was 7 feet tall!

 

Chambers was flat fooded and a master at nothing.

The only arguement you have is that Wlads opponents were better than all the guys in history.
All you have is Chambers was better than Joe Louis. Thats it. A simpleton response.
This is why you are the joke of the forum.

 

I can't wait to read your responses to post 1141 of Elroy's, regarding those fantasy fights.

 

If some argue Tillis outboxed him it says they didn't watch the fight.