Joe Louis vs. Young Stribling

You have to admit though, its still pretty damn impressive. The only time the man was ever TKO'd was in the 15th round of a world championship fight with a prime Schmeling. No shame in that. We also have to consider that when a man fights as often as Stribling did, someone's bound to catch you on an off night.

 

Very interesting discussion. My take is that Stribling would be a most worthy opponent for Louis and certainly has at least a fair shot at pulling an upset if he catches Louis on a bad night.
1. Chin--Stribling's has to be considered first rate--being only stopped by TKO by Schmeling in 15 in 290 or so fights is impressive no matter how it is sliced and diced.
2. Skill--I have only seen films of the Sharkey and Schmeling fights, but Stribling was a highly skilled boxer with an awkward and often ugly style. His chance of beating Louis rests on outpointing him, which is certainly at least possible.
3. Punch--Stribling did knock out top ten heavyweights Otto Von Porat and Phil Scott in 1930. Von Porat was big, 6' 4" and 210, and seems to have been fairly durable. Stribling ko'd him in the first round. Still, I think you overrate Stribling as a puncher compared to Louis' other opponents. Pastor ko'd Franklin. Conn ko'd Pastor and Barlund. Farr ko'd Neusel, etc. Stribling built his impressive ko record largely against obscure second-raters. Ko's of top men were few and far between. I don't think Stribling would likely pose that much of a punching threat to Louis.

 

I tell you what I think.I think you are a young man who looked at a set of figures,and drew certain assumptions from those figures,when your assumption were called in to account ,in other words prove them ,you came up with zilch.I could tell you that when Stribling fought Loughran ,Loughran was a late sub,having boxed an exhibition in Philadelphia the night before,that he travelled to New york overnight for the fight,I could tell you that Stribling thumbed Loughran.I could tell you that when the decision was announced ,the crowd booed so lustily and for so long ,the main bout [Tunney v Spalla ],was delayed because they couldnt announce it over the
noise. I could tell you that when Loughran fought Struibling again he cracked a rib in the third ,and lost a dec. I could tell you that Striblings reputaton was iffy ,that certain of his fights were under "question". I could point out that if you look at the majority of his bouts they are in the "tank towns".s to Carnera being an underated puncher ,I could tell you that a man who fought him ,and beat him didnt think so,he said to me Carnera was good at using his weight on you ,but not a big puncher by any means.That man felt the weight of Dempsey' Schmelings and Godfreys punches so I supppose he had some comparison.My issue with you was your statement that Stribling had an amazing punch ,I asked you to prove it ,you havent.

 

Louis, of course. It is easy to draw comparisons between the King of the Canebrakes and Billy Conn: both smaller, excellent defensive fighters with an efficient offense. Apparently the recipe for a potential upset of Louis.

But it seems Stribling never rose to the occasion. Despite fighting in all the divisions, he never won a title. He will forever be a good contender, never the bride.

 

And you have no idea about boxing ,go back to your coach Mendoza ,you make a good pair.You have a lot of catching up to do .

 

Got you right didnt I? 19 and still wet behind the ears.Manassa,s young too ,but he is informed ,you on the other hand know Jack ****.

 

This forum is not about put downs.

 

Arent you the guy that said Schmeling,s corner shouldnt have agreed to a rematch with the Champion Joe Louis in America? That they should have insisted on a neutral site?have you any idea how many times the title was contested out side the States up to the Louis ,defence against Schmeling?
13 ,Tommy Burns was responsible for 8 of them running around the world being chased by Jack Johnson.Johnson for 3 ,when he was a fugitive from justice,and Carnera 1 a show case ,defence in Fascist Italy ,thats out of 58 fights for the title .It would be anther 48 fights before Patterson fought Mcneely in Toronto.Why dont you start reading instead of posting ,then you won't make such a knob of your self.

 

Listen,I'll lay it out for you.Its true Schmeling was harrased and heckled,so was Louis ,The American Bundist league attended his training sessions wearing swastikas ,and jeered him ,the fight was in serious danger of being called off,Jim Jacobs ,the promoter convinced the powers that be, ie the money men that backed him ,that Louis would win.The fight went to Yankee Stadium NY,because A the NY crowd allways supported Jacobs events ,and B it was the largest seating premier arena in the States ,[70,000 people attended],the advance ticket sales were $100,000.
Where else could the fight have made that kind of dough?Did you know Schmeling was offered $300 ,000 to fight louis in 36,but demanded $600,000 guaranteed?.Schmeling didnt want to fight Louis ,unless it was for the title,he knew he was past his best.How realistic is it to suppose the fight would have been held anywhere but in the States?I dont think anyone on this forum except you and perhaps your new pal M ,will think the fight had any chance of going anywhere out of America.ps I wasn,t making fun of Eddie Futch ,I poked gentle fun at you,which obviously hit a nerve judging by your reaction ,and name calling ,no matter.Im not patronising you,,maybe your hearts in the right place ,you cetainly post a lot ,but some of your comments are very left field ,like when you referred to the Liston Clay fight.You came across as remarkably naive.Well you have a new friend now,Mr M , so its been a positive experience for you.You can count on his support ,any time you take a pop at me,or Jack Johnson.