Joe Louis w/ 10 ounce gloves

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How would using modern (bigger) heavyweight gloves affect Louis's ability to score knockouts?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Interesting.

    It will hurt his body shots.

    Also, it'll be easier to block some of his more precise shots.

    But in terms of when he actually conects it won't make much differecne IMO.
     
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  3. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    drops his punch effectiveness
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He still knocks people out left right and center, because it makes next to no difference to his power.

    Testing has demonstrated this.

    But, and there is a but.

    It would be harder to thread those shots through peoples guard with the bigger gloves.
     
  5. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wouldn’t hurt his ability to knock guys out.

    Louis was knocking people out with 14 oz gloves during his exhibitions. One of my substitute teachers George Giambastiani, who was a big heavyweight fought several exhibitions with Louis and got badly knocked out in one of the matches.
     
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  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Joe was so accurate anyway, bigger gloves might be like covering all the scoring areas on a dart board BUT the small bullseye - Joe still hits the bullseye, like he used to so often do anyway.

    Here’s another way Joe might deal with bigger gloves held in defence.

    Admittedly, Braddock’s left could be held higher in the first place but Joe deliberately punches it away with a left hook, taking the potential guard hand completely out of play, ensuring a clear path for his pulverising right hand.

    True, Joe might be outdated now, you don’t see genius moves like that anymore.


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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Such a good quote! :)
     
  8. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    Something Wilder truly excels at, given his lanky 7ft reach
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    It would be good if there was a table created or similar, indicating the general chronological evolution of glove types and sizes, differences for divisions, non title and title bouts through out boxing history.

    Even better if it also included details of exceptions made, such as the Hagler - Leonard fight.

    I’ve read that Joe Louis wore both 6 oz (early) and 8 oz gloves (later) during his career. I’ve also read that sometime during the 50s they went from 8 oz to 10 oz for HWs. Not to say that is necessarily correct, and that’s the type of detail I would like to be concretely confirmed or corrected.

    I wish (but I doubt) there was a one stop website that could provide for such technical data on specific fights - not just re gloves, but ring size, etc.

    Searching online in general gives a lot of mixed answers on such finer details.