Joe Louis was a very skilled boxer

I'd probably give the man in your avatar a better chance of taking Wlad out early.

 

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It's a shame people who underrate Joe Louis actually don't watch many of his fights to back it up.

He was one hell of a fighter. Today it's all about little technique, questionable courage and big strong guys with poor conditioning. Going the distance now means a whole other thing than in Louis' day. I'm over-generalizing, but you get the idea.

They bang the hell out of each other today, if we're lucky, but I don't see any of them beating, let alone KO'ing a superbly trained Joe Louis.

The same but to a lesser extent goes for Walcott, Charles, Schmeling, Sharkey, Baer, Braddock in their heyday, these were very tough men. People forget so fast. Or never knew to begin with.

Joe was a sharp shooter, and hit very, VERY hard and precise. He didn't take you out with one shot like but rather with a frightening precise avalanche of hard shots that put you into a weel chair.

Just ask Walcott, he'll tell ya.

I think only Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Shavers and Tyson come close in terms of hitting power but they weren't so accurate as Louis was. Joe was great, not just good, for more than 10 years.

I'v watched them all in action in near all of their archived fights.

His KO's rank among the most impressive and devastating in HW's history. It's only because fights back then were usually filmed from a distance and in fuzzy black/white instead of in-your-face sweat and guts, and in color and multiple camera angles, that Louis' figts SEEM less involving, less powerful and slower to the unexperienced eye.

But Joe was also very strong mentally, an opponent could never sense what Joe was thinking, his face was a blank. That together with his punching power made his opponents fear him.

Sure he occasionaly beat bums, but all fighters bad mediocre or great fight bums from now and then.

He has an unequalled career record for a heavyweight.
And this is coming from basically an Ali fan. I recognize Joe Louis for what he was: awesome.

 

Wlad is better then those guys .

Nobody is saying that size is all you need against Louis but size with the correct style makes thing very difficult for him.

Louis might beat Wlad but i would bet on Lewis to beat him.

 

good post :good


Louis is atg 1 or 2 hw with out a doubt

except for the shock defeat against schmeling (which was avenged) he didnt do to much wrong.

When he fought marciano he was well past his sell by date

To beat Louis you needed speed and great technical ability i.e ez charles one of the most underated fighters on this forum an atg lhw and top p4p fighter.

Billy conn also gave Louis fits but its smaller faster fighters

Of course this is a diff era and it is every bit as much as week as the 40's, but to say wlad beats him because he is bigger is a crock of ****. Louis speed is desceptive and he was technicaly in another class, and his inside fighting is far superiour to any one of today.

Have some repsect for longest reigning heavyweight champion of the world in history :good

P.s i dont know about him koing Lewis as i have read but of course with his power and hand speed it is possible.

 

This is quite a statement. There are a few that should be rated better than him IMO that you don´t mention, and even more that are on par. Great boxer, but this seems an overstatement to me.

 

Wlad is a B version of Lewis but if he fights carefully he makes things difficult for Louis if they fought ten times Wlad steals at least 3 decisions.

Louis KOs early 90s reckless Lewis but loses a decision to late 90s early 2000 Louis. A mature Lewis looking for the decision win was almost impossible to engage by a Boxer Louis size if he chose to keep it at his distance . Lewis power makes it difficult and dangerous to try and walk him down. And if you do get in range he will either tire you out with clinches or use his uppercut to force you back.

Louis has not the speed or style to get the fight in his range . If you cannot outspeed him or put him on the wrong foot with your footwork Lewis keeps the fight at HIS range .

Louis methodical steady approach wont work because it cant bring Lewis out of his comfort zone and pace.

I would pick Tyson or Dempsey to be able to handle Lewis based on styles seeing as they have the speed and footwork to close the range and force Lewis out of his comfort zone.

 

I appreciate everyone's input and opinion. I have mine, you guys have yours. I'm of the opinion that Louis's limitations hurt him as much as his technique helps him. Technique really isn't everything, and that has to be noted.

As for the matchups, you guys have your opinions, I have mine, but I really don't see Louis having a chance with someone like Lennox, while he has at least a chance against Wlad. In fact I'd be willing to bet big money on it if A) The matchup were possible, and B) If I had big money to begin with.

 

Yes, Joe is the best HW of all times.
Tall fighters like Klit and Lewis had weak chins, Joe would find it!