Joe Louis was lucky that Jack Johnson wasn't around!

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  1. ron davis

    ron davis New Member Full Member

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    Nobody could beat Jack Johnson. If you think someone could beat him let me know who? Peace.
     
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  2. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    " dempsey would have chased johnson out of the ring." Tunney 1955
     
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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which era would you like me to start naming fighters that would've beaten the hell out of Johnson.
    He was beaten a few times during his own era, K'oed twice before he had a total of 15 pro fights on record.
    So your "Nobody beats him" is totally wrong.
    And very silly.
     
  4. Decker

    Decker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you joking?
    JJ was a fairly big HW in his era. Modern era, even before the 2000s, he's a CW or very small HW (if he's in any decent shape).
    Many HWs before the 1950s would have been competitive or could beaten Johnson in a fight.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Outside of his ruleset? An overwhelmingly large amount of people. In it? You're right, probably no-one.
     
  6. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    Sure he was, great thread.
     
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  7. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Member Full Member

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    Foreman was supposedly invincible until he fought Ali....
    Fury almost lost to Wallin...
    Marciano retired after Moore because he knew he was slipping and possibly headed for a loss if he kept fighting...
    Anyone can be beaten at the right time by the right person including Johnson (who was a darn good heavyweight)
     
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  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti A Being of Inexplicable Inclinations Full Member

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    Like the way he ducked Wills?

    Tunney hardly seems unbiased on this
     
  9. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Impossible to say really!
     
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  10. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3:
    Probably all the ATG Heavyweights that came after him will beat him.
     
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  11. The Senator

    The Senator Member Full Member

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    Instead of going with the incredibly broad scope of looking for whoever would beat Johnson from across boxing history, let's just look at the implied matchup from the title in Johnson vs. Louis. I actually think this would be an intriguing matchup, if you replace Schmeling from his first fight against Louis with the Johnson of the Jeffries fight. Johnson did detect the holes in Louis's game that led to his defeat and bet heavily against him at the time. I certainly think that a serious, motivated peak Johnson would have a chance in this matchup, but it's far from a sure thing.
     
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  12. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Member Full Member

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    Personally I think Louis eats Johnson alive, Johnson would stand in the pocket countering feinting and parrying, but he isn’t mobile or fleet footed enough to frustrate joe, Johnson would have his moments early on, but Joe finds him and stops him between the 8th and 12th imo
     
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  13. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes not beating dempsey, nobody is, but johnson might have been the next best !
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    These old school fighters get badly overrated on this forum
     
  15. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You give him more of a chance than I do, personally I believe Louis destroys him, and Destroy him early if he fought the way that he did during his era.