Joe Louis would beat Muhammad Ali… possibly quite badly

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Journeyman92, Jun 18, 2025.


What’s your opinion?

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  2. Ali

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  3. Draw

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Yes, lots of fighters can run, he didn’t do anything but be non combative and in spurts had the S kicked out of him why do you keep brining it up? I don’t understand the relevance, Louis won that fight easily, 2nd one even easier where he clubbed him to the cavas 4 times LOL. Have you actually watched the fights? Or do you just use articles and boxrec? Those bouts are in no way a knock on Louis’s ability to beat “movers” and for a man who “boxed for 20 years” you ought to know that a body shot is accuracy over power by now. A well placed liver shot knocks everybody.
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I look forward to your borderline baseball stat slop post where you refute it with some dusty article instead of looking at the fighters.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    The point is if a punchless light heavy could do this,below.
    "showed the effects of Pastor's punches around the region of the ribs and kidneys, besides a sore nose that bled throughout the last five" rounds."
    What could a 6 ft 3, 212 lbs superior fighter in every way to Pastor do?
    I not only watched the fights, I bought them ,over 50 years ago!
    Now get your act together and construct a case for Louis beating Ali there is one , a totally pausible and reasonable one, but it doesn't consist of a lot of unsubstantiated personal opinion.
    Post how Louis does it,show us what qualities he has that nullify/overide Ali's?
    Then you'll start getting some respect.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I was watching Johnson,Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Tunney on super 8mm film when you were still sucking on the tit.
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Listen, the guy clearly gets off on stupid confrontations. I honestly don’t even remember seeing him before the past two days but the pattern is transparent. I’m simply bored and will ignore him moving forward. He’s clearly a last word freak so I say let him spew his jism and move on.
     
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  6. Boxerboxer222

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    It basically means making multiple posts which flood the board. To be fair Journeyman just did it there. So I'll use him as an example

    Basically he made two separate posts replying to the same poster within a 10 minute timeframe when you can use the reply button to respond to numerous posts. It floods the thread and I've noticed Mcvey does it a lot and it clogs the thread unnecessarily. Maybe it's just a me thing but I think it'd be more cohesive. Though I realise that he's older so maybe he didn't know you could do this. It doesn't even have to be the same poster you can respond to numerous different posters at the same time.

    ""Frazier got quite upset when compared to Marciano"
    You clearly have a hate boxer for the guy mate. It's obvious and Frazier straight up said that Louis and Marciano were the two greatest heavyweights ever. I don't think he'd be "upset" to be compared to a legend of the sport.
    ""Don't try and Lecture me you don't have the credentials yet"
    I'll lecture you however I want and I'll especially do it if you're going to be that cheeky and condescending towards me.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Come back in20 years Sonny, is that condescending enough for you?
     
  8. Boxerboxer222

    Boxerboxer222 Member Full Member

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    How mature of you. Must be going senile.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    If there is a vacancy for a post policeman,I think you ,with your vast experience here should go for it.
    Where do you get off admonishing and complaining about how others post? WTF are you for us to take any notice of?
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Don't be drawn in any further Mac. Not worth it mate.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Snot noses who haven't been here five minutes, handing out lectures,the arrogance of youth.
     
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  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    That was fast he done got WASTED with the ban hammer.
     
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  13. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Buddy, I don’t think I want your respect, you’re an old man who comes back from the pub and raves on about how people are cowards over fantasy boxing opinions kick rocks.
     
  14. Philosopher

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    For me the one thing that separates the two is, unfortunately, an intangible. Call it the Ali factor if you like, but I cannot concieve a brilliant but somewhat orthodox boxer like Louis beating a brilliant, unorthodox, iron chinned boxer like Ali. Yeah, yeah, Cooper caught him...because Ali had zero respect for Henry...and that was Henry's honey punch. And Frazier put him down. But did you SEE that punch. Ali was up in seconds. Ali would, in my opinion, absolutely befuddle Louis who wouldnt manage to keep up with him or cut him off; Im talking about early Ali, pre exile Ali. Post FOC Ali, Louis has a better chance against but I genuinely still make this assertion 70/30 fight for Ali. Now, this might be cultural brainwashing, but I jist can't see Joe having the bit of magic that would be needed to out point or stop Ali. Only one Greatest for me.
     
  15. Journeyman92

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    Was the film different then? What difference does it make if you were 90 years old? Are you trying to pull rank as a boxing fan? :sisi1