Joe Louis would decimate the current HW heap!

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Forget about adding weight to Louis, a peak 1938 Louis would absolutely destroy the current crop of (super) heavyweights.

    and that is that! :D
     
  2. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Well, he would play a huge role and be champ for sure but I would expect him to drop one fight in a trilogy to Wlad.
     
  3. Danny

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    Are you serious? I don't care what people say about Wlad being so much bigger, out-weighing Louis by a great deal, etc. Louis would be way too accurate, pin-point & powerful for Wlad.

    The word TIMBER comes to mind.
     
  4. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tony Thompson wouldn't get out of the second round with Louis.
     
  5. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly, Joe is possibly the greatest combination puncher in history in any division.

    He had a knack of destroying larger foes easily did JL
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Peak Louis punches the excrement out of the current crop imo.
     
  7. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    an underrated (I hate that term!) combination puncher is Jack Dempsey, he gets a load of flack here (most of it unwarranted) but he could really put his punches together, with each punch loaded with dynamite.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, he would probably go unbeaten.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was the most talented combination power puncher ever and my # 1 heavyweight ATG......He would be everyone from Valuev to Vlad, although Vlad may not be easy, its that follow up combo Louis had would make all the giants fall...Vitali on the other hand 4 yrs ago would be a stylistic nightmare for anyone
     
  10. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Buddy Baer comes to mind when I see this: Timber. He destroyed Baer, he'd destroy both Wlad and Vitali.
     
  11. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Yep, I´m serious. While Louis may have great recuperation abilities his chin wasn´t the best and I suppose Wlad would get in one big shout in three fights that would be enough.
     
  12. The Predator

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    yes absolutely, without any doubt. There are a lot of past time fighter that would have destroyed the current top heavyweights.
    TIMBER!
    All the best
    The Predator
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad and Vitali are both superior to Buddy Baer. Technically and physically.

    I think Wlad beats Louis 2/3. I think it's a poorl styles match-up for Louis, because Wlad is so much better than Louis on the outside, which is where the fight would take place. Great fight, though.

    Vitali would give Louis problems too, but I don't see him winning a series. I don't think he is a good enough puncher, unlike his brother, to do so. He may win 1/3 though, because of Louis' weak chin, but I see him losing the eventual series.

    Interestingly, there may be another heavyweight who in a few years will be considered a real threat in a head to head match-up. David Haye. If he chin improves with weight, as it did for fellow Brit Nigel Benn, then he may be a force at the weight. At the moment, offensively, I think Haye would present a few problems for Louis, but because of his chin, you can't seriously pick him. But if he fights a few heavy hitting heavyweights and comes through alright, then who knows.

    Peter has a punchers chance, as do a few others guys, but I don't see that realistically happening.

    I think Louis would have a similar career to what he did have. Dominate for the most part, but have a few problems along the way.
     
  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    You're looking at undisputed champ here if he was let loose against the current crop.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Its possible that if Louis were fighting in his prime today, he might very well be a cruiserweight, given that we don't know exactly how his body would respond to modern training or nutritional guidelines ( or even steroids for that matter. ) He might come out a fit 230 Lbs, and fair well at that weight, or he may have lost some of his abilities with the adage of muscle mass. Who knows?

    If we were going to take Louis right out of the 1940's and place him in today's picture with no changes, I think it would be a tough call to make. He might very well be the best fighter in the division, but at the same time, he might not be undesputed either. Louis was not even invincible during a time of smaller heavyweights and lesser training methods, not to mention discriminant promoting. He was brutally pounded by a former lighheavyweight who weighed in at about 192 Lbs, had not fought in a year, and had only won something like 4 of his last 8 matches. Over the course of his reign, Louis would be floored multiple times, and some of those floorings came from fighters who were borderline journeyman ( regardless of their actual rating. )

    Conclusion: Louis, with or without modern adjustments to his physique, certainly could have made a mark in today's heavyweight division. But, to automatically assume that he'd grasp theineal title with ease, is a bold leap of faith.