Joe Louis would obliterate George Foreman

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Are you talking to me, Or TommyV?
In any case...
You're the ******ed one. Apparently anyone below 200 pounds is not a great fighter and could never take on a 200+ heavyweight. That just spells ******ED all over it.

 

The 1936-41' version of Joltin' Joe tears any version of Foreman apart. Louis was a precision puncher not unlike Ali. But with ten times more power. As for those who say Louis only had an average chin and was knocked down several times, it would not matter here. Foreman is busted-up and groggy before this would come into play.

Louis by kayo in 6

 

Foreman may hit harder than louis, but he is faster, smarter, and more accurate. Louis tears him up in six rounds or less.

 

Two-Ton Tony Galento put Louis down, and he doesn't hit as hard as George.

This fight might not be the "cakewalk" some people think. Louis was down 10 times in his career.

An analysis of Louis' fights on Boxrec shows him vulnerable in the early going ala Frazier.

Good article on boxer-puncher Louis:
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/louis_fl.html

 

I'll take the"Brown Bomber" in this one..Louis was the perfect puncher...

 

Louis would crush Foreman like hit Crushed Schmelling or Conn. No 205 pound fighter who stood infront of Foreman would win. That means glass chin Louis who best wins came against 170 pound white guys as well.

 

I just can't see Foreman being elusive enough to keep away from Louis.

Lets be entirely clear about who needs to keep away from who here.

 

Sounds good. :good

 

I like what McGoo said and I generally agree with him. Louis has to be favored in this one but You can't count out Foreman who was stopped only once his entire career and could take a great punch when he wasn't tired. Baer is no Foreman and shouldn't be used as a barometer in this fight. If George can catch Joe early and not let him recover then he could end this. Of course the emphasis belongs on the word "if". Do I see this as a likely occurence? Not really. But would I be shocked if it happened? Not really. Even if Foreman were to beat Louis, you know what would happen in the rematch.

 

Old Mike Tyson would stop Rocky Marciano in 1 round...... well that is a lie because Marciano would just try to blow Tyson so the fight would never began,

 

The only question that you can give a definite answer to is "what you would do if you were managing either one of these fighters".

Manging Louis
I know that there are risks asociated with this fight, but they are the kind that you have to take somtimes. I fuylly expect my man to win given meticulous preparation.

If my man is a challenger in the same division as Foreman, I might see a fight with him as offering a higher reward to risk ratio, than some fights with the slicksters of the division.

If my man is champion, then it is a title fight with a masive gate, that might be worth the risk.

Managing Foreman
I absolutely would not agree to fight Louis, under any circumstances unless:

A. Louis was the reigning champion and my man was a contender.

B. I could get a title eliminator with Louis that would lead to an imidiate title shot (if it is part of a tournament then forgett it).

C. My man was champion and he would get stripped for not defending against Louis.

My view right or wrong.

 

M, what the hell gives with guys like you?/ Why the hell do you constantly bring "race " into every freakin post.What are you trying to prove M.? If you don't like the "white" race ,why do you post on the internet invented by a caucasian ? I don't know how old you are but you should know that Joe Louis destroyed bigger guys than your lumbering icon George Foreman. Primo Carnera, Abe Simon,and Buddy Baer were as big as George Foreman. The Joe Louis of the Max Baer prime would crush big slow Foreman with ease. No
human being in history could survive an attack once Louis hit you, and rest assured Louis would hit Big George first. Louis had trouble from smaller faster heavyweights ala Conn, Bob Pastor,but catch up to them he did as his great reign shows. Cheers from a "white guy",who happens to be color blind.

 

Right as I said Max Schemelling knocked out Louis and Unless Max is a heavyweight which he wasnt or could take a punch like Foreman which is couldnt or could punch harder than Foreman which he couldnt yet he still knocked Louis out.

None of Louis piers stated he was a harder one punch puncher. According to them Archie Moore a natural 160 pounder had more 1 punch power than Louis.

Neither Primo. Max or Buddy Baer was as good as Foreman period. They fought in the same era so most of their wins came against smaller opponents period.

Foreman isnt my Icon because he sucks balls but he was still great and He beat better fighters than Louis beat. Beating up 170 fighters like Billy Conn dont impressed me because I know my boxing.

Getting knocked down by numerious 170 pound fighters dont impress me

I Bring up race just to tease you white people. I have 0 problems with white people.... well unless they are liberal. But I will stop mentioning race for you unless somebody mentions something about Marciano....how about that?

Foreman still blows away Louis period

 

One of the things i really cant understand with todays fighters, and it has only really happened since Tyson's reign and to a lesser extent once lennox and the klitchskos took over, although i am sure there were probably periods where it was thought to be important. But why is there so much emphasis on power.

A fighter can only hit so hard. Guys like Wlad, Golota, McCall, Bruno, Tua, Witherspoon etc. They can all hit harder enough to hurt any fighter. In fact, so can other guys who are not really top echelon guys like Mitch Green, Ross Purity etc. Other guys like Chris Byrd, who are not big hitters at heavyweight can still hit hard enough to hurt fighters. Even natural middleweights and light heavyweights like Toney, Jones Jr, spinks, Adamek, the list is endless all have enough power to do damage when they land cleanly.

In all reality, the name of the game is still the same as it always has been. Hit without getting hit. Does it really matter how much you increase your power, if you cannot land it as often. Or if you get hit far more often in trying to land it. I really dont see what advantage it is to put so much emphasis on strength training to the point that realistically, the advantage gained once fighters get over a certain level is very minimal, particularly when one clean shot from most of these fighters pretty much is capable of finishing (or at least drastically turning) a fight anyway. Surely that time would be far better spent on improving speed, dropping weight, increasing stamina or technique or whatever, rather than wasting hours a day increasing power. I think it is a major flaw in modern thinking, imo. I raise this, because George is probably more powerful than Joe but really does it matter? Joe can but anyone out with one shot and fires combos far quicker and more often than George.

Obviously if George or Joe each lands cleanly, they are going to KO the other. It is undoubted that Joe is faster than George. Doesnt this suggest that if they stand toe to toe, Joe is more likely to land cleanly first? If it is old George then obviously there is no question, but even young George is going to cop plenty from Joe in the early goings. and he didnt really have the greatest stamina to keep up the pace.

I really think that George benefited (in his second career at least) massively from the modern fallacy that power is more important than speed. In fact if you look at George's career, those with speed and smaller fighters are the ones that troubled George more than the bigger fighters. Admittedly Joe wont skip and dance and run like some of those 90s heavyweights tried to, but he wont start slow and try to get in close and land the left hook like smoking Joe did either. This is a good fight, but George must start out as the favourite.

 

I get tired of people thinking Louis would have an easy time with Foreman just because of the Max Baer fight.

It's possible that Joe Louis could knock out Foreman. George is easy to counter with those wild swings. But Foreman was bigger and stronger than Baer. Joe Louis never felt the power of a George Foreman in his life. He said that Rocky Marciano hit him the hardest, and while Rocco was a slugger, he was no George Foreman.

Joe would have to knock out George early to win. He'd have to. If he doesn't, he gets massacred like Ken Norton. Joe Louis was down 11 times in his career from punchers who can't compare to Foreman's power. I see Foreman winning this. Brutally.