Joe Louis's record vs ranked opposition

GGG and Usyk weren’t ‘better’ in their mid 30’s.

look at the difference in speed when GGG was in his 20’s, his problem was that he didn’t have anybody to fight, he beat all of the contenders.

The difference was that he knocked them all out and looked indestructible doing it.
When Wlad should have been in his prime he was getting knocked out.

 

Why he'd easily beat them just like he beat all his opponents during his title reign

 

Ok thanks for responding.

 

Just wait bro i'm coming

 

How ? Why?
When was Frazier getting ko’d by nobodies?
Foreman even trumps Wlad for being a better older fighter despite sitting round getting fat for ten years.

 

Chinny grabby wrestler, worse than his brother.
Firmly sat on the middle step with his brother, looking down on bums like Joshua and Wilder but not good enough to be on the top tier.

 

I would take the mid 30's Usyk over the mid 20's one who struggled against Beterbiev seven days a week. As I would take mid 30's Lewis over mid 20's Lewis. Lewis also had the bulk of his best work in his 30's.

In the end, it is what one does against whom that matters, not when. Your criteia seems arbitrary and just having to do with that you don't like a certain fighters.

 

Because neither had a dominate or long run like Wlad nor do either have the amount of good wins that Wlad does. Your hyper focus on losses is kinda dumb ngl and its selective af which is typical for you kind.

How is Foreman better he only beat Moorer as an old fighter otherwise he beat nobodies and lost to every good fighter he fought. I swear all you do is repeat boomer talking points without actually thinking them through I'll wait to hear a single original thought from you.

 

Ok Dino

 

Of course it matters when , it matters loads.
Beterbiev is world class, Usyk couldn’t dominate him because he’s quality, not like the dross he’s beaten in the last few years.

Lewis wasn’t at his best at 35, around 30 or so he was at his best, which is right for the majority of fighters

 

Foreman was 40-0 before losing to the greatest ever.
Which Moorer’s were Wlad beating at 45 ?

I focus on losses less than most probably, but you have to look at them in context

 

Larry Holmes wasn't undisputed either and yet you rate him number 3, LOL. So it matters when it comes to Wlad, but not when it comes to Holmes?

 

Joe Louis fought them all. But the list above seems to include fighters who weren't ranked at heavyweight (but at light heavyweight) ... guys who used to be ranked ... and guys who were later ranked.

It's fine if you want to include anyone who was ever ranked.

But a lot of boxers' records look different if you include every fighter they fought who USED to be ranked or were ranked in a lighter division.

 

So it's way better when it comes to quality and quantity. That's exactly it.

I'm not arguing fantasy matchups. I'm talking about the facts. And the facts are, Vitali can't shine Wlad shoes when it comes to resume.

 

followed your advice and here's what Chatgpt has to say

• Muhammad Ali (1966–67) – The perfect mix of speed, reflexes, footwork, and ring IQ. At his peak, you basically couldn’t hit him clean.

• Mike Tyson (1986–88) – Short prime but absolute predator. Explosive speed + terrifying power + impeccable defense under Cus D’Amato’s system.

• Lennox Lewis (1999–2003) – Tall, powerful, disciplined, and capable of boxing or brawling. Virtually no style could consistently trouble him at his best.

• George Foreman (1973–74) – Raw, clubbing power and physicality that broke men down mentally before the fight even started.

• Larry Holmes (1978–82) – One of the best jabs in boxing history, granite chin, and elite adaptability.

• Joe Louis (1938–41) – Textbook perfection, precise punching, and surgical finishing ability.

• Evander Holyfield (1990–93) – Warrior spirit, combination punching, stamina, and chin to go with solid technical skills.

• Wladimir Klitschko (2010–2014) – Near-untouchable when fully disciplined; master of range control and power delivery.

• Riddick Bowe (1992–93) – Complete skill set with underrated infighting for a big man, plus heavy hands.

• Sonny Liston (1960–64) – Unnerving intimidation, crushing jab, and overwhelming strength.