Joe Mesi.....retrospective

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Jamal Perkins, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,701
    Likes Received:
    3,075
    How good was this kid?

    Where could he have gone in the HW picture of the 2000"s?
     
  2. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    1,250
    Likes Received:
    1,238
    A top ten guy that would have gotten a title shot without necessarily earning it. Barrett and Jirov are good wins but how bad he struggled in both certainly show his ceiling. Decent but not fight ending power, average size, and a chin that was suspect against non-elite punchers. His best shot would be old Rahman but even that is likely a bridge too far.
     
    haNZAgod, mr. magoo and Jamal Perkins like this.
  3. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2020
    Messages:
    2,065
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Hard to say. He wasn't elite but he had very decent foundamentals and while not the biggest puncher shifted his bodyweight effectively. He'd definitely have a decent shot against Ruiz or Byrd. Would get soundly beat by either Klit
     
    vast and Jamal Perkins like this.
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Messages:
    58,748
    Likes Received:
    21,578
    He wasn't much good but neither were Byrd, Ruiz, Brewster, Liakhovich, Rahman, Maskaev, Peter, Valuev .... etc.
     
    Jamal Perkins likes this.
  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2018
    Messages:
    6,058
    Likes Received:
    11,252
    I would agree with this. He was a contender and possibly good enough to win an alphabet belt against 2nd tier champs like Brewster, Rahman, Ruiz and Maskayev but I don't think he was on par with the Klitschko's or the generation before with Lewis and Holyfield.
     
    Jamal Perkins likes this.
  6. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    1,250
    Likes Received:
    1,238
    I think Brewster would have knocked his head into the third row of the stands, though that fight would be fun however long it lasted.
     
    Jamal Perkins and ideafix12 like this.
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    55,255
    Likes Received:
    10,354
    Just good enough to crack into the top ten on a bad year. No more. More of a top 15-25 ranked guy at his best. We saw his limitations vs. the best he fought. Thankfully he retied before he was badly or or hurt.
     
  8. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,701
    Likes Received:
    3,075
    I miss brewsters wbo reign:confundio1: he was a fun heavyweight for a while...i wish the hw division had some diversity guys like brewster,hard rock mansour,devarryl williamson, valuev,donald....as bad as it was post lennox for the mid 2000s there was that...kind of mix....now as good as fury is and the rivalries with wilder and AJ ...outside those 3 and usyk and ortiz perhaps...theres really nothing of interest in the hw division....it may just be the marketing of the sport...the promotions..the small shows on tv...things like heavyweight explosion are dead and buried....and we have a dead sport where there are basically 5 guys discussed in the hw division.......but thats the way it is....a half competent italian american like messi back than made some waves...back than....now...even with social media no one would have seen 1 of his fights
     
  9. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2018
    Messages:
    6,058
    Likes Received:
    11,252
    Maybe. To me Brewster was very inconsistent. His fight with Meehan and Lehovich showed that. I thought he was going to wipe the floor with Meehan but he really struggled in that fight.
     
    ideafix12 likes this.
  10. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    1,250
    Likes Received:
    1,238
    Yeah he definitely was in worse shape and didn't get up for fights as much after the Klitschko win. With Mesi being a name I think he'd be switched on, similar to the Golota fight (not the 1st round ko just the version that shows up).
     
    AwardedSteak863 likes this.
  11. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,163
    Likes Received:
    873
    A brawler with a average punch and suspect chin isn't going to go very far. TBH I don't think Mesi people thought he was that good either I think the plan was to get him a fight with well past his prime Tyson in 04.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2020
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    51,086
    Likes Received:
    25,195
    A solid tough fighter who at his pinnacle was at least fringe.
     
  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,418
    Likes Received:
    5,607
    Byrd was good
     
  14. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2010
    Messages:
    25,988
    Likes Received:
    19,883
    Good enough to contend for a title shot but not good enough to beat the top-tier champs like the Klitchkos.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    26,576
    Likes Received:
    17,654
    In no way, shape, or form was this guy better than Andrew Golota.