Joe Smith is the Kelly Pavlik of LHW/CW

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  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If they can hit you, he will destroy you...

    They have lots of problems against good boxers.

    Good former champs tho.

    Love the bruisers
     
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  2. Scotty Cork

    Scotty Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik was way better
     
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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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  4. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    is joe smith an alcholic?? if not I dont see a similarity other than they both being white.
     
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  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Nah.

    Pavlik a level or two above Smith, and much harder to beat within his actual division then Smith is.
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Pavlik was a higher caliber fighter @Jacques81
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Poor comparison, Pavlik had some good boxing skills ,while I love ole Joe he is and was an over achiever with good power and strength. His loss to Zurdo displayed that . All he did was come forward throwing one big shot at a time, and against a good boxer that's a recipe for losing.
     
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  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Insulting to Pavlik who was a great fighter.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Smith is nothing like Pavlik.

    Pavlik had a very good jab a laser like right hand and very good fundamentals.

    Pavlik was considered the best Middleweight in the world for a good few years.

    Apart from them both being white theres absolutely no similarities at all Pavlik is a level above Smith.
     
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  10. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.

    As I mentioned on an earlier thread, Pavlik lost to a current HOFer and a future HOFer, and suddenly he's a glorified club fighter.

    Pavlik had underrated boxing skills, subtle craft and a good understanding of what he could and couldn't do, a thudding jab that functioned as "find and fix" mechanism, and punishing power in his right hand.

    Of the most recent crop of middleweights, I'd only favor Canelo and GGG to beat him.
     
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  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In every facet of the sport Pavlik was. Can't even compare them. The bottle destroyed Pavlik's career more than anything.

    Glad he's found peace on Instagram with his boxing tactics channel
     
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  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Insult to Pav.
     
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  13. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Nah Pavlik had better fundamentals great jab and a better overall skill set.

    That being said I’d love to see Joe with a better trainer. I read up on his trainer. he has boxing experience and is from a boxing family but Joe needs a change going forward. Not saying scrap the guy, keep him on but bring in someone new.
    This fight is easy … prolly the worst corner advice I’ve heard in a while. I realize that’s not all he was saying but still…..
     
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  14. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    whatever made you draw that specific comparison OP?…
     
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  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    They fight nothing alike. Bivol shares more similarities with Pavlik than Smith does, FFS.
     
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