Joe Smith Jr. Is Hard As Nails and Artur Blew Him Out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Jun 19, 2022.

  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Smith destroyed Fonfara in a round

    He won every round against Elieder Alvarez and then violently knocked him out

    He turned Jesse Hart into a running man/octopus hybrid, the same Hart who gave Zurdo two really tough grueling fights

    Even if you scored the Vlasov fight for Vlasov as I did he still gave Vlasov hell and hurt him numerous times and had him badly hurt, in big trouble and on the verge of the first stoppage loss of his career when the ref gave Vlasov the break after the rabbit punch in round 11

    He badly hurt Bivol and had that shot landed 10 seconds earlier he might have finished him

    And he KO'd B-Hop. Sure B-Hop was ancient but as with Alvarez, Fonfara, Rosinsky and maybe even Hart that wasn't a fight he was supposed to win

    Two of his four official losses were due to him suffering a badly broken jaw in round 1-2. He dropped Barrera heavily prior to his jaw going again

    Prior to last night Smith had badly hurt, dropped or stopped every single opponent he'd fought since moving up to the world level and that's pretty rare for punchers and he's willing to fight anyone and everyone


    Smith had never been down before in his life prior to yesterday

    Smith isn't some hype job he's legit and he lost to the most feared and fearsome puncher in the sport last night who has a KO 100% not some nobody. Both Beterbiev and Bivol are absolutely fantastic fighters and both are or should be P4P top 10 now
  2. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Active Member Full Member

    Nov 18, 2021
    Punch went off right at the bell, which is why Bivol got caught. Would not have landed 10 seconds earlier.
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Possibly but Smith was already in the process of throwing it as the bell rang IIRC
  4. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Active Member Full Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    What about the overhand in rd 4?
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    He buzzed him but I don't think he was really hurt by that shot
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  6. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    May 2, 2009
    Rival RFX-Guerrero
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Listen to the thud in those shots and factor in how many flush ones Smith ate in quick succession

    It's crazy he was able to eat so many of them flush on the temple area because just one of those from a puncher with hands as heavy as Beterbiev will scramble most fighter's senses and discombobulate them

    How the hell was he able to remain upright after eating that massive uppercut and right hand thump when he was already badly hurt and had taken many flush ones previously in quick succession? His chin is iron.

    I hope Smith is alright because I heard he was taken to hospital after the fight
    Aint no stoppin and tinman like this.
  8. Goran_

    Goran_ Active Member Full Member

    Sep 27, 2018
    Been high on the Russian for years it's good to see him finally making his mark on the sport after his career had stalled somewhat.. probably looking at another future Hall of Famer here
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  9. tinman

    tinman WWE Audition Full Member

    Feb 25, 2015
    Yep cast iron chin. I said before the fight that Smith is tough as they come and has one of the best hearts in boxing. Beterbiev would have to break his body because its impossible to break his spirit. No man, no matter how tough can absorb those shots from Beterbiev.
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  10. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

    Jul 17, 2018
    Well, once again, I couldn't have been more mistaken in my prediction lol
    Was betting on Artur having lost a step combined with the fact that he's been dropped before by another strong puncher in Callum Johnson and had come to the conclusion Smith Jr. had a reasonable chance of getting the upset.
    How wrong I was! If anything, Artur seems to have gained a step, defying time itself, at-least for the time being.
    As another poster said, given his style, it's not difficult to conceive of a scenario were he's able to continue in this same stead for another three years, possibly more.
    Without a doubt, Artur is the most dangerous boxer on the planet right now P4P. Let's hope we get to see him face off against Bivol soon as I'm practically salivating over the idea now.
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  11. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 10, 2012
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  12. tinman

    tinman WWE Audition Full Member

    Feb 25, 2015
    This was the exact gameplan Smith used. Better to give yourself a punchers chance and get knocked out early than run away like a girl.
  13. JOKER

    JOKER CEO of the LDBWC Club Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    You need to check yourself.

    Smith quit with a broken jaw before.

    Plenty of fighters have fought through to the end of the fight with severe injuries.

    Paulie had a badly broken jaw and a broken orbital bone and went the distance.

    Inoue had a broken eye socket from the second round and in a later round, a broken nose.

    Margarito had a broken eye socket from the fourth round on.

    Valero continued fighting despite the white matter of his skull showing through a cut.

    Tommy Morrison fought through a broken hand and a broken jaw.

    Abraham had his jaw shattered from the fourth round and went the distance.

    Smith is tough and has a lot of heart, but let's not pretend that he never quit in a match.
  14. tinman

    tinman WWE Audition Full Member

    Feb 25, 2015
    He "quit" because his jaw was broken on both sides and was literally dangling. He didn't "quit" he was sent to the hospital to perform an emergency procedure.
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    That uppercut looked and sounded like a big shot from a HW and most of those bombs Beterbiev clubbed him round the head with landed with a sickening thud and you could hear the weight in all of them. Even though Smith was dropped multiple times and was stopped in a couple of rounds he still displayed a lot of chin, toughness and heart.