Joe Smith Jr. vs. Maxim Sergeyevich Vlasov & Efe Ajagba vs. Brian Howard RBR.

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  1. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Member Full Member

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    I didnt watch it but people were telling me beterbiev had no shot. glad smith won but sounds like he didn't look impressive. and beterbievs "unimpressive win"
    was a near shutout knock out win

    smith still has a shot in any fight he's in however.
     
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  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The next Russian he faces will probably need a KO to get the W.

    Fortunately for him, he only does KOs.

    16 - 0 - 0, 16 KOs.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

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    And for the record, I scored it for Vlasov by a point, it's just that this IS NOT my first time seeing Vlasov, it's probably the 15th match of his I've watched and scored, so none of this was shocking to me. He's a damn impressive ultra skilled fighter. Many were even picking him for the upset. But I have a feeling a lot of you guys were shocked because you were expecting a blowout, I was not. So therefore you all gave way too much credit to Maxim. Fine you want to say he won, that's fine, but the two scores that Joe won by are not even close to controversial. Like I said before, 4 solid Smith rounds, 3 hard to split ones. Get over it.
     
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  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it wasn't.

    There should have been a point deduction.

    Two, if you count the blatant low blows on the ref's blind side, prior to the double-clubbing rabbit punches.
     
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  5. sasto

    sasto Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There was a procedural error, but the bigger problem was that was several rabbit punches past the ref warning Smith. There should have been a point taken, I wouldn't have hated a 2 point deduction. Smith was pretty out of control with hitting behind the head and Vlasov was a little rough but much cleaner.

    With only the small crowd I'm sure the trainers could have shouted to the neutral corner, I don't think they gave him water or anything so I see no major problem.
     
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  6. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Yeah, on this site any remotely close fight is a "robbery." It's ridiculous.
     
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  7. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Member Full Member

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    everyone just said smith would win easy and probably nobody knew the guy he was facing.

    joe smith getting out boxed at a point wasn't that surprising again I didn't watch the fight sounds like it was a razor close fight maybe they'll do it again I have a feeling the beterbiev fight isnt next
     
  8. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe came on strong in the 11th and 12th. The 'rabbit' punch should have been a KD as Vlasov ducked his head after Smith threw the punch. Most likely it shoulda ended up an 11th rd ko for Smith as Vlasov was shot before the punch that the ref called 'back of the head'. Vlasov subsequently got several minutes to recover.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's another tried and true tactic.
    Beterbiev is 36, Smith is 31.

    Just wait for Beterbiev to get old.
     
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  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Beterbiev will get the next Covid variant delaying the fight with Smith.
     
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  11. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm a Vlasov fan now. Slick white Russian skills, like a LH Pirog.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I didn't score it because I missed some of the rounds (the 11th being one of them) but from the ones I did see I thought Vlasov definitely deserved to win it. I'll watch it full tomorrow and score it properly. But that was a really grueling fight for both guys and both of them had to dig deep, fought their hearts out and really wanted to win bad.

    I knew Vlasov was going to cause Smith a lot of problems with his slick awkward style but Smith looked very uncomfortable in there from the get-go and it was a horrible stylistic match up for him. That being said, I'm pleased for him because he's easy to root for and a great guy but by the same token I feel bad for Vlasov because from what I did see he didn't deserve to lose and he's suffered more than his fair share of bad luck in his losses.
     
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  13. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beterbiev already had Covid.

    He is not the same fighter anymore, but will still KO Smith Jr.
     
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  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Classic hometown cooking by Bob Arum.

    Joe Smith Jr is their next star and Arum has talked about his favouritism towards Smith Jr. He wants him to be the next "blue collar American" star.

    Don't be surprised if he pulls the same stunt against Beterbiev. Or tries to anyway....

    ......only for it to backfire and Beterbiev knocks out Joe Smith Jr anyway :lol:
     
  15. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

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    Mental that, a big cruiser that can drop 25lb and be strong at 175. I’m shocked