Joe vs Hopkins score cards?

At one point I was obsessed with Hopkins/Calzaghe.

 

I had it 115-112 Joey 'Zags. . . 8 rounds to 4 (minus one point for the knockdown Hopkins scored in the first).

Adalaide Byrd, the only judge who got the Rios/Abril fight right this past weekend, is the dumb broad who somehow found a way to score it 114-113 for Hopkins. . .

 

This is how I feel too. . . You just can't win rounds by landing 3-5 pretty clean shots, and then holding, faking low blows, etc. . . Especially when your opponent is letting the hands go, and coming forward, making you clinch up to save face every chance you get.

Also, like the one poster said, Calzaghe DID land some clean shots on Hopkins. . . He doesn't get enough credit for his effective aggression/punching. . . Sure, he threw a lot of slap=like flurries, but he connected with that chin-piece a lot more than people give him credit for. That's what happens when you throw 75 punches a round.

 

Whats Manchester got to do with anything. Joe Calzaghe is a Welsh man.

 

Hopkins won the 1st 4 rounds, with a 10-8 first round, then Joe :tong won rounds 5-12 - Joe won 115-112 - simples

Actually I think it's one of the easiest fights I've ever tried to score.

 

About time someone made this thread!

 

Or the only one who's knows **** about baaxin.

 

I was just joking.

 

I had Bhop winning by 2-3 points . . . **** **** **** fight . . . this is one fight I will never, ever watch again (whole or in part). Bhop lost the fight with his "White Boy" comment weeks before it got in the ring. Close fight from what I remember if it was a good fight I'd say they should have done it again but it was worse than a current heavyweight fight so I stay up at night trying to erase it from my memory

 

Most of the press didnt score for Hopkins atsch:-lol:

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

Eh, I'm just not sure about that. . . I can't see how Hopkins won 6 rounds of that fight. . . She also had Pavlik drawing with that one guy from Texas. . . ****, what's his name. . . He fought him on the Pacquiao/Mosley undercard. . . Pavlik didn't look that great, but he definitely beat that dude by at least 3, or 4 rounds. . .

I don't think she likes white people atsch

 

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At the time I thought Hopkins won, havent and wouldn't ever watch it again, dreadful fight.

I can see where people think Calzaghe won the boxing match, but in terms of who got the better of the 'fight' I thought Hopkins landed more effectively and made Calzaghe look pretty amatureish. His mistake was he was just too negative, which was probably something to do with the workrate of Calzaghe

 

I think everybody agrees that IF Hopkins did more of what he was doing, he would have won hands down. . . But I just don't see how you can justify him doing enough in each round, to win 6 rounds.