Joe Walcott v Oscar de la Hoya 147 LBS...

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Been reading a lot on Joe Walcott lately. How would his phenomenal power stack up against the Golden Boy?
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Well basically classic is going to the pic the guy that was knocking over Heavyweights so he'd blow DLH. But I really don't know. Obviously this guy has elite power, but there's no film and I haven't read enough either.

    I would lean toward Oscar just for the mere fact that he's more modern. Not that moern is always better.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What have you been reading about him?
     
  4. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Difficult to say no footage of Walcott doesn't help, he certainly is the greater fighter. Can't really say who would win difficult in fantasy fights basing one guy on his reputation and every writter has their bias.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Mostly searching newspaper archives. He was a ridiculously powerful midget.

    One of the fights I would most like to see is Walcott v Choynski. For as much trouble as Joe gave the big boys, the Barbados Demon beat the living hell out of him.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    And this is the thing. How does Oscar keep him honest? Gans outboxed The Demon in their 25 round draw, and may have been cut out of a win there. Langford, too out-boxed him. I don't think that Oscar is a better boxer than Gans, for whatever that is worth, but Oscar has a better jab. Oscar has an awesome jab.

    Over 8 rounds, I'd favour Oscar for this reason. At ten rounds i'm already starting to get nervous about that pick. Maybe 12 rounds is the tipping point for me? The Demon could drop Oscar with a body shot at any time. It's basically impossible for Oscar to win over 20 IMO. Somewhere in between the black and white turns to shades of grey in term so of making a pick...

    A word on Choynski. As you'll likely know, Walcott was a big underdog for that fight. It wasn't like his absolutley extraordinary abilities were expected to pull him through...Choynski was expected to smash the little man up. It was a welterweight against as huge-punching super-middleweight, then as now.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on the ruleset, I guess. But it really is guesswork since there is no film of Joe.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yeah, I was thinking of a Napoles match-up but I think Mantequilla would eat him alive. However, though Oscar has a good jab and a good beard, Joe would land a few times.

    Of course this is all wild speculation but Joe needs some more love and not to be forgotten.
     
  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it would be fair to say that a fight that goes longer than 12 rounds would favour Walcott as he was used to going 20 rounds.
     
  10. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe Choynski was reputed to have fallen on ice,and cracked a rib before his fight with Walcott..He went through with the fight as Choynski did not think he would have trouble with the 147 pound Walcott...I have read this version several times in old articles...Factual or not,anyone's guess...
     
  11. mcvey

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    Makes me wonder how good George Kid Lavigne was, he stopped Walcott 3 years before the Choynsky fight ?
     
  12. bodhi

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    I was asking a bit about Lavigne a few weeks ago, only very few added something. Seems very forgotten today.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Lavigne was undoubtedly brilliant, but Walcott was badly injured his leg in the fourth round (according to his own testimony) and was horrifically weight drained, supposedly suffering cramps in the last days of his training camp due to dehydration but still having to take a pound off the morning of the fight. He was also supposedly stricken with cramps througout the fight, to his legs and gut.

    Walcott claimed that he would never try for 132 again and that Lavigne's punches left him unaffected. Opinions vary as to that last statement, to say the least.
     
  14. janitor

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    Joe Walcott vs Shane Mosley would be another interesting one.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

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    ...Pete...I think you might be mixing this thread up with this other thread: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232523