Joel Diaz: Manny Pacquiao Is The Greatest Fighter of All Time

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER "He is greater." — AdamT on Pac > Fluid Jr. Full Member

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    It's a huge deal when more and more people are calling Pac the GOAT. Whether you agree with this sentiment is irrelevant. It's gaining traction. Pac's still active, but when he finally retires, his resume is going to rocket even higher as the years go by.

    It took awhile for people to admit that Tom Brady is the GOAT.
     
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  2. JOKER

    JOKER "He is greater." — AdamT on Pac > Fluid Jr. Full Member

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    No, you're a little man who can't comprehend facts.

    You haven't proven that Pac said he was afraid of needles. Still waiting for the quote.

    You continue to insist that Pacquiao forced a catchweight on Marquez despite me posting direct quotes from Marquez saying the fight would have to be at a catchweight.

    You continue to lie and say Pac avoided random drug testing.

    Just be a man for once in your life and admit that you're wrong and wrong often.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair Pac is fighting above his natural weight so him losing to Mayweather after he was cherry picked after looking old and done vs JMM and Bradley doesn't really do his legacy much harm.

    JMM maybe one of the greatest Mexican boxers ever but nobody is saying but he couldn't beat the much bigger Mayweather so can't be that great. The fact these 2 fighters were willing to go up against someone as good as Mayweather and also give up weight to him says a lot about them both as fighters, no challenge to big it seems.

    Duran couldn't beat Hearns in fact got annihilated by him but how many people rank Hearns over Duran in terms of being an ATG?
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny is not the goat, he might, might get into the top 10. maybe
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care if half the planet think's he's the greatest .He's not ,Match him up through the weights. Could he take Willie Pep or Sandy Saddler at 126? No . Alexis Arguello at 130? No, heck he got busted up by a then declining Eric Morales who Manny said was too big for him! Roberto Duran at 135? Hell no. Aaron Pryor or Henry Armstrong at 140? No. Forget great welterweights they'd execute him. He's a product of steroid usage which enabled him to go from 126 to 147 and all of a sudden even bigger fighters weren't too big. Just like Canelo now , the preeminent juicer in boxing today.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take your pick. Look at the top 5.

    A fighter who made a career fighting people until they got old, avoiding the best in Key weight classes, abusing the catchweight clause, getting dominated by other fighters, losing to the best opponents he has faced is not the greatest.

    Like Kellerman once said, Pacquiao's career has been carefully orchestrated.

    Props to his longevity, but it begs the question, how so? His own trainer ousted as a PED user.

    Too many asterisks to be the greatest.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    So who is the GOAT??

    You've yet to answer.
     
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  8. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its subjective, it can be any of the consensus top 5.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Who is your number one?
     
  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    S. Ray Robinson from Heaven Is saying: LMAO.

    :dancer2:
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Yeah, and the real GOAT.
     
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  12. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Who are the consensus top 5?
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe a bit overstated but I think there is a lit of truth to this.
     
  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #1, Sugar Ray Robinson is the undisputed pound for pound champion
    2 . Harry Greb
    3. Roberto Duran
    4. Henry Armstrong
    5. Sam Langford
     
  15. JOKER

    JOKER "He is greater." — AdamT on Pac > Fluid Jr. Full Member

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    Still lying.