Jogre Luiz Gonzalez

Gonzalez was a lot of bark and little bite as a pro.

I loved the persona match-up with Gonzalez and Bowe. Gonzalez loved to dress in black, try to look mean, and talk like he was the worst villain the world had ever seen. Riddick Bowe tries to come across as a big teddy bear, doesn't look scary, and jokes around a lot. The difference is that Bowe really has a mean streak. Ask Larry Donald about it. Gonzalez is more of a bully, and is only mean when he thinks it's safe.

 

Yeah, Gonzalez never showed us that he could truly compete against a world beater. Even a 40 year old Tim Witherspoon beat him rather easily. By 1993, and after compiling a fair number of pro fights along with his amateur accomplishments, Gonzalez should have been fighting a more formidable opponent than Renaldo Snipes. I was suspicious of his abilities when he couldn't finish Snipes, despite toying with him for so long.

 

Well, Gonzalez was a very good amateur with wins over Lewis, Bowe and Stevenson for exemple, but he was also kind of retired when he turned pro in 91. His best years as an amateur was between 83 and 87. In 88/89 Roberto Balado became the number one superheavy in Cuba and Gonzalez "semiretired" after that. I actually think he was rather inactive the last three year as an amateur. So the Gonzalez who went pro was way over the hill as an amateur.

 

it's interesting what would have happened if he could have turned pro in his prime and really develop as a pro.
he was tall, big hitter and sure he was not great inside but is wladimar k?

but he was older and had a huge ego.

 

does anyone have a clip or pic of that fight with renaldo snipes...was it really that bad a beating?

 

so i finally was able to see his fight with renaldo snipes (i found my dad's copy of bowe-holyfield 2)....man snipes tried his ass off but gonzalez was lighting him up..taunting him saying **** like "come on" while beating on him...the fight should have been stopped in round 8....then gonzalez actually splits his right glove from punching snipes in the face...which there was a delay and eventually delayed the inevitable...i liked how in the 10th snipes went all out to knock dude out but jorge finished him off brutally after that...thanks goodness snipes didnt fight again after that

 

That 1993 fight sucked so bad I actually erased over it.... Snipes looked and fought like a stiff who was over the hill, while Gonzalez was like a huge Mummy trying to get at his prey.... The bout sucked..... I was disappointed....:rofl

MR.BILL

P.S.

Snipes was never really a good fighter and Gonzalez never really developed as a pro.....
:deal

 

like i said before i saw the fight this morning..snipes was shot to pieces..had no balance and jorge just looked amateurish but still beat the **** out of snipes without mercy

 

this is maybe the most ill informed post i have seen lol

a, there is no country in europe or otherwise that says that ducking punches is illegal lol....this is just laughable lol

b, what good amauters keep their chin up, find one coach in any eastern block country or otherwise that teaches to keep your chin up...
keeping your chin down one of the first things a boxer is taught in any country.

c, yes most amauters are not good in fighters and that is something they learn more in the pros, but if you think a top amauter from any country has no clue how to fight inside....that makes as much sense as your chin comment....

d about about the pawing jab and right hand, it is true in some ways but you what you forget that they depend a lot of foot work....cubians, russians etc usually move very well, and the footwork and angles set up a lot of attacks...and when the fight is as short as amauter fights are, it's a lot easier to use footwork then in a long pro fight


ps i have been boxing for over 10 years and i have had coaches from mexico,us,canada, russia and romania...so i think i know a little bit


i do however agree that stevenson would have not have been the top poor, i just don't think he had the right style for it but it is safe to say he would have done better then an aging gonlazez

 

I'm surprised that Briggs didn't get up and whup Gonzalez's ass, being from Brooklyn.

 

Gonzales had all the tools and the pedigree, but never put it together. The Snipes fight bored me to tears, Gonzales just sucked, I just thought he had, had a bad night and would still give Bowe hell.......

 

J.L.G. never learned how to put combos' together in a proper manner...... Gonzalez was slow and stiff as a board..... He looked alright when pitted against a low-rate bum for an opponent, but when matched against a real fighter, Gonzalez normally got his ass kicked.... He looked tougher and more scary than he really was....

MR.BILL

 

undisciplined fighter
as a cuban, i never found him to be such a good fighter, never liked him as a fighter.
i saw one of his last fights in versus a month ago, i enjoyed seeing him get his ass kicked.