John David Jackson: "Andre Calls Himself SON OF GOD But Tells A Lot Of Lies!"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Todd498, Jun 16, 2017.


Do You Think Ward Is Fake?

  1. Yes

    31 vote(s)
    83.8%

  2. No

    6 vote(s)
    16.2%
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  1. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All that is ground noise, the overwhelming fact is that Ward has the belts and he is the Champion. That knock down didn't count but for one point and if Kovalev out landed Ward a lot of the punches he landed were insignificant. Kovalev had some good boxing moments but Ward was not out boxed. That so-called single leg take down is BS and don't count for nothing. You make statements like the majority had Ward losing when you don't know that. What is a fact is that the majority that counted had him winning. You calling him a billy goat but the only low blow thrown was thrown by Kovalev.
     
    Manfred, Jun 16, 2017
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  2. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This X 1000! And The VAST MAJORITY agree.

    Just Sayin
     
    Todd498, Jun 16, 2017
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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL

    Kovalev landed more "power" punches, how are they classed as insignificant?

    As for the majority, look up the independant boxing writers, fans.

    You can spin it any which way you want but your man got lucky.
     
    Odins beard, Jun 16, 2017
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  4. Manfred

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    Check this out, a so-called power punch is anything but a jab and that don't mean that it's effective. You will never know what the majority is because quite simply you don't have the means to access everybody's opinion. Just because a handful of writers might be in agreement don't mean squat. Their opinions hold no more value than anyone else's Your spin is luck but I contend that luck had nothing to do with it. Hard work and dedication is what won that fight for Ward.
     
    Manfred, Jun 16, 2017
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  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Technically calling himself the Son of God is a lie in and of itself.
     
    thesmokingm, Jun 16, 2017
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  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL put any spin on it you want but "hard work and dedication" must mean getting lucky.
     
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  7. Serge

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    MEDIA SCORES:

    Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
    Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
    Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
    Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
    Cliff Rold (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
    Daniel Vano (******): 114-113 Kovalev
    *****: 114-113 Ward
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
    Ryan Burton (*******): 115-113 Kovalev
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
    Daniel Attias (AUSboxing) : 114-113 Kovalev
    Victor M Salazar (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
    Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
    Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
    Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
    Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
    Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
    Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
    Steve Zemach ( FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
    Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
    Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
    Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
    Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
    Ben Weismann (*********): 114-113 Kovalev
    Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
    Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
    Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
    Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
    The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
    New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
    G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
    Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
    Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
    Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
    Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
    FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
    LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
    Allan Fox (Boxingnews24): 117-110 Kovalev
    Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
    Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
    Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
    Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
    Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
    Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
    Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
    Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
    John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
    Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
    Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
    Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
    Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
    Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
    Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
    Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
    Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev

    View Poll Results: Who won?

    Kovalev     345 71.28%

    Ward 122 25.21%

    Draw 17 3.51%

    484 Voters:


    Who did you have winning Kovalev-Ward?
    This poll is closed.

    • 72%
      Sergey Kovalev
      (4073 votes)

    • 21%
      Andre Ward
      (1195 votes)

    • 8%
      Draw
      (428 votes)
    5696 votes total

    Who Won?

    1. Kovalev
      97 vote(s)
      57.4%

    2. Ward
      57 vote(s)
      33.7%

    3. Draw
      15 vote(s)
      8.9%
    Was it a robbery?
    1. *
      Yes, Kovalev should have won
      342 vote(s)
      74.8%

    2. No, I thought Ward won
      115 vote(s)
      25.2%
    View Poll Results: Who won?

    Kovalev 70.00%
    Ward 25.00%

    Draw 5.00%

    Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
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    Kovalev vs Ward


    Kovalev 84 57%
    Ward 55 37%
    Draw 9 6%
     
    Serge, Jun 16, 2017
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  8. Serge

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    Imagine what the polls from EE look like.
     
    Serge, Jun 16, 2017
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  9. Manfred

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    Only in your world.
     
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  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL

    Just check out Serge's post.

    Good quality work Serge.
     
    Odins beard, Jun 16, 2017
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  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL

    I'm not the one on here trying to deny facts of the fight am I.?

    But you are.
     
    Odins beard, Jun 16, 2017
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  12. Manfred

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    Manfred, Jun 16, 2017
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol

    This content is protected
     
    Serge, Jun 16, 2017
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  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    No but like I said it's the majority.

    And if the majority agree that SK won and Ward got lucky, albeit in a very close fight, it is those in the minority, in this case you who is wrong.

    You may not like it but that's how the real world works.

    Hopefully SK retires Ward tonight.
     
    Odins beard, Jun 16, 2017
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  15. Manfred

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    Yes you are, because whatever you think about who won the fight don't count. The fact is that Ward got the decision and the belts. You can't get around that. The only remedy for that is the rematch.
     
    Manfred, Jun 16, 2017
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