John Fury criticises Tyson and his team

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  1. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm curious because Hearn has mentioned it and so has John Fury but in recent interviews with Arum and Warren there has been no mention of it.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Well, they lost the case. They have to honour the contract.
    I'm not sure what's upsetting people so much about that. I guess Tyson Fury is probably a bit pissed off because he has to fight Wilder for less money than he could get for AJ but it's really just a rewind to last year.
    With all that's happened in the world 2020-'21 I don't think it's a particularly bad outcome.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    BIg John Fury is probably anxious that Wilder lands a KO punch on his son this time, due to Tyson being distracted and upset by recent events.
    Despite all his boasts, the Dad does seem to get anxious a lot.

    It was only a couple of months ago he was worried about Fury fighting AJ "without a tune up".
    Now he's pissed off that he won't be fighting AJ ! :lol:
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't understand my point. They were in an arbitration in the first place because Fury didn't just have their rematch early 2021 and jump out of it because the fight kept getting delayed. If Fury's team just got the rematch out of the way we wouldn't be in this mess and Arum led team Hearn on saying Wilders team doesn't have a leg to stand on.

    This is team Fury's fault. Now we have to see him destroy Wilder again instead of fighting Aj
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was worried about Fury stepping in the ring with Wilder first time and look what happened. We all know whats going to happen july 24th
     
  6. bandeedo

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    you really cant see whats upsetting people about it. whats squirrelly about it? or is it that it just doesnt upset you?
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    Wilder's a killer puncher. Some tune up !

    Your conspiracy theory makes no sense to me.
    The judge makes his own ruling based on his expertise and judgement of the case, his legal opinion, his interpretation.
    He doesn't confer with Tyson Fury about tune ups and whether he feels ready for Anthony Joshua fight in August !
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    No, I really don't understand why people are acting so outraged or annoyed by Fury-Wilder 3 in July 2021, when we were all more or less resigned to the fight for July 2020, (then along came covid).
    It's a bit disappointing for many of us, I get that.
    But all the outrage and blame games and conspiracy theories, it's way over-the-top. Fans need to man up and stop whining like spoiled children perhaps.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a tune up for Fury. Fury has shown he can beat Wilder 2 different ways, he can outbox Wilder or he can give Wilder zero breathing room and destroy him on the inside. All Fury has to do is say focused 100% and he'll get the job done again.

    Never said the judge did but mid negotiations i would not be suprised if they realized Wilders team really did had a leg to stand on and realized that Wilder/Fury 3 ia a relatively likely scenerio. You legit had Fury saying multiple times that he may fight Wilder next and his team always being negative about the Aj fight. And the fact that negotiations took MONTHS instead of a usual few weeks and took until the judged ruled in Wilders favor doesn't sit right with me.
     
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  10. bandeedo

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    from my viewpoint, and i dont have all the facts, this is what happened. wilder and fury have always been in arbitration. but they went ahead and negotiated with aj, assuring them the arbitration would not be an obstacle. so hearn goes and turns over every rock north of the sahara to find the money for the fight. he finally does, signs aj to contract, and when it comes time for fury to step up, he says, sorry, i promised deontay he would get first crack. my bad.
    which part am i wrong about?
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    It was going to arbitration already last November.
    Fury wanted the rematch last September/October but Wilder wouldn't sign, it could be because he was injured. This was all reported last year, October, November 2020. After a 90 day extension period (for injury), after July last year, lawyers on Arum's side advised they could claim the contract expired. Lawyers on the other side concluded that covid pandemic could be used to say the contract was still valid. This has been going on since then.
    Arum lost.

    Yes, of course, IF they knew then judge would rule against them, in hindsight it would have been better to not fight their case at all, and get Wilder in the ring as early as possible, which still would have been around April (pushing the AJ fight back way beyond August probably, and opening up AJ-Usyk anyway).
    But hindsight .......
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From the looks of things this sums it up although i don't know why Fury would negotiate with Aj if he knew the arbitration could be a problem.
     
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  13. Geo1122

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    Apparently the contract could have been cancelled in December, but Fury’s team did not do it, which meant the rematch clause was still binding. So in that instance he’s not wrong, Fury’s team are to blame.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Both sides - Wilder's and Fury's - were preparing for their third fight.

    Covid struck.

    Both sides and the networks with rights to broadcast agreed to push the fight back further and further into 2020, hoping the pandemic would ease.

    It didn't.

    Then all agreed to push the fight back into early 2021.

    The arbitrator was called by Wilder's team WHEN Fury tried to break his contract for a third fight with Wilder.

    Wilder's side called the arbitrator to rule on whether Fury could break the contract.

    The arbitrator ruled no, Fury couldn't.

    So, the third fight goes on.

    That's about it. There is nothing really complicated about this.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    You're a little bit wrong on two points.

    1. Hearn wouldn't have been completely "assured". He'd know there was a significant risk of Wilder's side winning the ruling.
    2. Fury is legally bound to Wilder fight. It has nothing to do with "time to step up" to AJ fight, or a 'promise'. The contract is the contract. It's not a promise or a choice.

    This is real business. Legal business. Not some cartoon or soap opera.