John Fury criticises Tyson and his team

That’s not true at all. The main reason Fury didn’t fight in December is because Arum didn’t want to get sued or pay for the promotion only for there to be an injunction put in place to cancel the fight. They knew this outcome was possible and didn’t want be on the hook financially.

On top of that FOX and ESPN had an gentlemen’s agreement that the 3rd fight should be pushed back to allow fans to attend. The reason for that was because the 2nd fight’s gate generated close to $18 million which obviously helped a lot to cover the $25 million guarantees for both fighters. For business reasons the fight was too expensive to put on and not have a gate unless both guys took less money, which they wasn’t gonna do.

 

Well for starters not getting rid of the clause when they legally could have in Dec

 

Exactly.
Why are people making this complicated ?

It's a bland contract issue, quite straightforward I thought.

 

Well yes and no. Wilder tried for the fight before the expiration date. It was pushed back due to pamdemic. Not Wilder idea to do so. Now trying to say it's too late to execute the rematch clause is very hypocritical. Don't think it would stand up if taken to court.

 

Can you elaborate on this ?

 

but there are complications. people invested hundreds of millions and valuable time on team furys word, which now appears to be worthless. i find all that terribly complicated.

 

The bolded is not an assurance anyone could accurately give, nor would any rational person believe it. I have no problem with Hearn going along as though the ruling would be favorable, but that's not Fury's fault.

Hearn knew about the arbitration and chose to gamble. That's on him.

 

exactly! and youre siding with donald duck.

 

I remember it getting pushed back because of the pandemic and injury but it was pushed back 2 more times after that, reasons i don't remember. It was October where Fury said he'd move on because the date was pushed back to 2021 for unknown reasons, not due to injury. But Fury could have just waited until the rematch finally had a solitified date an smashed Wilder again. Now that his team have tried to take Fury out of the contract, Fury has been out the ring and have lost the arbitration regardless. Yes i repeat it was his teams fault.

 

I'm not siding with anyone. I'm accepting the judge's ruling.
You could say I'm siding with reality.

I can't even follow the partisan 'blame game' conspiracy theories. It's really a straightforward dry legal business issue.

 

part of that straightforward legal issue is that you dont negotiate the sale of property someone has a lien on. theres legal responsibility there too. not to mention what a mans word should be worth, outside of court.

 

It's not on Hearn. Fury's team was just wrong about everything and and messed everything up from the start. Hearn trusted Arum and was ignorant of all the contractn details so you could say he went in there blind. But at no point does the blame fall on Hearn for the fight falling apart.

 

The fight not happening isn't on Hearn. Hearn shopping the fight as though there was no arbitration definitely is on Hearn.

Fact pattern:

Dealer: "This car is $40,000 in cash."

Buyer: "Perfect, I'll take it."

Dealer: "Okay, so, I have to tell you that the car's title is under dispute and there's a case where a guy is saying the car was stolen from him."

Buyer: "So you're saying I'm supposed to buy a car with an unclean title?"

Dealer: "Technically yes, but I'm pretty confident the judge will rule that the car wasn't stolen."

Buyer: "Sounds good. I'm sure you are right. Here's my $40,000 in cash."

Hearn is the Buyer in that scenario. Sound smart?

 

I cant wait to see Johns reaction if Tyson gets knocked out lmao!

 

Well yes that is on Hearn. He hyped the fight up like it was eventually going to get signed in 2 weeks... and then 2 more weeks, and weeks become months. Yeah thats on Hearn but he trusted team Fury which i guess he never should have