John Fury criticises Tyson and his team

Fury Sr needs to belt up. Total blether of a man.

 

Seems to be a lot of legal eagle experts here

 

Hr might not be a lawyer but John will have a more insightful knowledge of the contracts than people on here. It’s a bit **** to imply he’s some kind of thick illiterate gyppo

 

If you watch the interview he says at the end that furys team had a chance in december to rid of the wilder rematch contract but didn’t. John is sounding like tyson is being puppeteered by arum, haymon, finkel and espn like mike tyson was with don king, and hes being controlled and maybe setup to lose. He said he told tyson to dump the wbc belt and fight joshua in saudi and that it makes no sense for wilder to dismiss a $20 million step aside check.

 

Yeah, the uncle sounds pretty sharp, so there’s some brains in the family. Tyson just strikes me as those type of people that always has to be on. Can never be genuine because he’s always in character. I find those people terribly tiring.

 

But were there, really?

Fury didn’t sign to fight AJ, did he? In a court of law, they would ask Eddie if he was informed that the Wilder-Fury III contract agreement was in arbitration. He would have to say yes, as he’s admitted he was aware of the fact.

Anything after that is him proceeding with that knowledge.

Fury/Arum can say they acted in good faith because their lawyers told them that they thought they had made a good case and the arbitrator would rule in their favor.

If the House of Saud is aggrieved, it’s with Eddie for his representations as Fury surely made no assurance to them personally that the fight would take place.

Now if AJ signed a contract to fight Fury for a boatload of Saudi gold, he could sue Eddie for not producing the fight/purse as the promoter is the one who offered these things by way of a contract and failed to deliver. WHY he failed to deliver isn’t at issue — if he didn’t do his diligence to make sure he could deliver what he promised, AJ would likely prevail (depending upon the wording in the contract).

 

Yeah both Fury father said and Hearn said. I guess they knew better than you and me? Would you guess? But you are on Tyson **** and defending him for everything, and at the same time blaming Joshua team from long time now. You were crying big time that Hearn is not going to deliver it, the money was not there, and all that crap, just like team Fury was doing(are you 1 of them lol ?), and when he deliver and obviously for every single fan out there, that doesn`t have their head stick in their a** Team Fury messed this up big time, and its obvious for everyone they was happy big time they won`t fight AJ. You can just look at everyone opinion on this on youtube, social media, whatever, and everyone is hating on that garbage Fury.

That garbage Fury that say he SWEAR he would never ever fight Wilder. If he and that old g***** was any smart to begin with it, they should have sued Wilder for all the b.s. he said about Fury, and all the cheating garbage after Fury beat him fair and square.
And then they could have a LEG to STAND ON !!!
That was a clear as a date case, with Wilder words all over internet. Easy to win, but i guess maybe this was the plan all over for Team Fury.
Garbage team.
I really hope Hearn/AJ just put a veto and totally f****** Team Fury, and let him fight the cans he is used to fighting. He will eventually lost, cause he is first getting old, and for his lifestyle it will be very soon that this will hit him big time(maybe even in the Wilder fight), and Joshua will get the chance to Unify with someone that is not full of s.....
It will be hilarious tho for both Wilder and Fury to duck him and lose their all time money, just for then to lose and complete get out of the picture.
Joshua ain`t need of a Fury to make big money, yet Fury needs him.

Saintpat , But Team Fury did sign the contract to fight the AJ. The only thing that was left was the date and the place. Both teams have said that they sign a contract.
I don`t know what exactly contract it was, but both team have reported that they sign a contract, and they have like 14 days or was a bit more to get the date and a place.

And i don`t see how someone find this situation as normal. Fury wasted another like 17 months of his career staying inactive and its back where it was like a 17 months ago, having to find Wilder again, a fight that could only hurt him, nothing else. He is wasting his prime on tomato cans and inactivity.
This case with Wilder should have been decided long ago, but he and his team managed to f***** up, and whoever not seeing this is a complete i.....

 

Hmmm, I quite like the idea of Fury dumping the WBC and AJ dumping the WBO in order to fight.. not sure it will happen but it's a nice idea.
Wilder could then fight Whyte for the WBC, Usyk would fight Joyce for the WBO, and the top two can duke it out for supremacy with a view to some interesting rematches & unifications further along the line.

 

This ain`t happening. And Joshua would not drop the WBO belt. He had all in control, until team Fury didn`t mess up all !!!

 

It was all pretty much an open book.
Everyone knew Wilder's promoters were fighting to get the contract upheld. And everyone knows they are shrewd operators themselves.
Arum said he was confident they'd win, but he was wrong.

If you and others here are seriously claiming that Eddie Hearn and Joshua or whoever were as innocent as little children duped by old Bob et al, and didn't even consider the possibility that the Wilder case might go this way, I don't know what to say ....
It's ridiculous.

It seems a lot of people want to throw their little tantrums because they won't be getting the toy they were promised quite yet.

 

The only knowledge of the contract worth anything now is the knowledge/opinion of the judge who ruled Fury must fight Wilder.

People can say whatever they want. The outcome is the same. Fury is legally obligated to fight Wilder next.

 

This is exactly correct.
But good luck with getting people around here to accept it.

 

Fair enough, you're just parrotting Hearn, "they could have cancelled it in December". I don't know what he's refering to.
Personally, I'd like to know how that works, since this arbitration process has been going on since before then.

I'm not saying I disbelieve Hearn but I'd like to understand what exactly could have been cancelled. Was it the actual whole contract for the 3rd Fury-Wilder fight, or was it a sub-contract, a TV deal or option or something ........ ?

I'd like that clarified because people do keep mentioning it, like it's a key point, apparently based on something Hearn said.

 

Have you any idea what this "could have been cancelled in December" stuff refers to ?

 

Apparently, Hearn knew absolutely nothing about the contract until the judge ruling, by his own version.
I'd like to know exactly what he learned about "December".
I'm not saying he's wrong at all. He could be right. But, unlike you, I like to hear the facts, just a few details, before speaking on matters.

A couple of months ago John Fury was saying there was no money in the world to stage AJ-Fury this year, and now you're using him a your great sage.

Yeah, but you see I'm a grown adult who's been following boxing for a few decades now, so I'm not some little over-emotional little social media child.
I'm not on anyone's dick.
I give Eddie Hearn full credit for all the work he did and the deal he almost made. I always stated I'd give him all the credit if he gets the fight made. Okay, he didn't quite get it made. But that's not his fault. I give him credit for what he did.
And, yes, I'd love to see Fury-AJ as much as anyone and it's a bit disappointing that it won't happen just yet. But life goes on.
In the world of grown-ups, this really isn't anything to cry about, kid.

Try not to be so emotional.
You're full of hate.
Calm down, kid, you'll live longer.