John Fury criticises Tyson and his team

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I'd laugh my head off if Fury gets knocked out by Wilder.
    That's what's upsetting John Fury.
    The fight is happening, and it's not as easy as people say.
    Sure, Fury should beat Wilder up again .... but if he's less than 100% focussed, if he turns up fat and distracted, this could be a nightmare for him.
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It sounds to me like you WANT Wilder to win judging by your comments and your profile pic
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    No, I'd prefer Fury to win.
    I think Fury wants to beat Wilder, get him out of the way, and then fight the Joshua/Usyk winner.
    If Wilder wins, I think we need Fury-Wilder 4 ! But I'm not sure Wilder would do that ....
    .... so it's better to get the Fury win, I reckon.

    But still, it would be somewhat funny if Wilder KOs Fury, after everything everyone has said about Wilder.
     
  4. UFC2020

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    Lol a lot of the Fury fans are forgetting about Wilders one punch ko fighter. Wilder is determined for revenge and its on record that he refused the step aside offer and will make adjustments for the third fight. It's not going to be a cake walk.
     
  5. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That and the fact that if that happens his team would have lost him earnings of over £100m which is criminal.

    people forget AJ vs Fury was due to be a two fight deal $75m for the first. Imagine the second ones purse.
    All because they decided to mess arohnd
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    I'm not sure you can blame them if Wilder beats him. They don't have a choice. The judge ruled on that.
     
  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    See the multi millions Fury lost due to him having traded the boxing belts for the over eating, excessive consumption of alcohol and snorting titles, in tandem with a side dish of psych issues on top.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah bro your still in Fury .... If you know what i mean ? You are biased from the very first second of this.
    I couldn`t give a ..... what you want from Hearn. Everything he said was 100% correct. He was correct for Ortiz, he was correct for Wilder, he is correct now.
    Tyson Fury father come and said it, everyone out there comes and say it. Everyone is backing Hearn on this, and your hero team is as quiet as it can get, which just prove my point.
    They could have terminated the contract, but they didn`t do it. 2948248428 person already said this, Tyson Fury father too.
    You know better or the people that are actually there, and actually knew the whole situation.
    Yeah bro, you are bias, you got no real argument.
    And what is the reason to write 10 posts one after another ? This just shows how desperate you are trying to prove someone wrong, when everyone know you are wrong.
    And i would wish to be a kid again, but things aren`t working that way ....

    As far as the emotional part. I`m not. To be fair i expected Team Fury to pull this off. I expected something to happen, cause Fury is all of s.....
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Actually, several people in this forum and on this thread are saying the exact same as me. The contract is the contract. Fury's side tried to wriggle out of the contract to fight Joshua, but failed.

    There's nothing to blame, there's no problem. Hearn did what he could, great. But Fury will fight Wilder, just as we expected last year, the judge has ruled. Joshua will fight Usyk.

    You may not be a child but you have a childish outlook.
    You talk about "taking sides", "your hero", "ride his dick", "everyone is backing Hearn" . You don't think like an adult.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah very few biased one. And the rest, the majority are on my side, so you know the majority wins ?
    As far as my talk i talk what i see actually. Its looks like that from the side. I follow your posts closely from the beginning of the whole saga with AJ vs Fury. You always find a way to bash AJ/Hearn and to back on Fury.

    I don`t see how can you say anything to defend, if his father said they messed up, and that they could terminated the contract.
    And there is zero and i mean ZERO from Bob Arum.
    He is writing his excuses now, you know ? He will come swinging at team AJ, after he get a good excuses for everything.
    Its obvious as it gets.

    And if you think i`m biased or support AJ blindly, then you are 100% wrong. Especially for Hearn. All his and Dillian Whyte talk about taken big fights and taking huge risks, and that the fight vs Povetkin is for the mandatory, just to pull the rematch clause and his face was like a garbage after the fight, it was just all time low. As well as forcing Povetkin, who was totally garbage post COVID.

    I don`t back him now as well, with his b.c. about Usyk, and that Joshua is forced to fight x and y man. While i understand his frustration because both Fury and WIlder has fought nobody really, not a single good mandatory(Fury doesn`t even have 1 defence to his title lol) and so on, but when you are a Champion, which is the ultimate goal, you are to DEFEND your title. Not against who YOU want, but against the mandatory, that is expected to be the best possible opponent at that current time. While this is not always the case, work on that thing to make it that case, but don`t complain that a Champion should defend his belt.
    And all of the Joshua talk about that it`s not about the man, but about the title, and all that he care is to Unify and become Undisputed, and now suddenly Hearn is threaten to vacate the WBO title, which will just mark Joshua legacy in a very bad way big time.
    He is talking that he wants to arrange his fight, and all that nonsenses.
    Its obviously atm is all trying to negotiate a better deal for Joshua, but there is certain rules, and they said 75-25. Usyk is not a no name. He pull up bigger number against Chisora, then Joshua did vs Pulev. And he is your client as well. You should threat him fairly.
    And for mandatory there is no rematch clause option. So he is probably trying to push that too, but he need to paid 5-10% extra for that.

    As far as the moment its all negotiation and threatening, but if Joshua for real vacate the WBO, he is done. With all the talk, that is about the titles, not the name, and all that, and you trash the title, its just going to mark you till the end of your career.
    It was one thing to do if he was forced, when the Fury fight was on the line, but now there is no bigger fight for him than against Usyk.
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    It is a key point until its refuted by Arum id say

    And yeah it would be interesting to know how it was laid out

    And parroting Hearn? Hmm id have to disagree

    If that's the case we might as well all end up in the exotic birds section of a wildlife park

    99 per cent of us discuss boxing using media
     
  12. Trafford

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    Top Rank had the opportunity to cancel the contract in December leaving fury free of any arbitration
     
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  13. The Clan

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    Ill stand being corrected here but didn’t Wilder fail to trigger the rematch within the stipulated time and therefore relinquish his right to a rematch?

    I know they all came out publicly within 24 hours of FvWll and SAID they wanted a rematch but my understanding is that they did not legally activate the rematch clause in time.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Right, I keep hearing this. Like I said, I'd like to know the details of this. Just some explanation.
    The arbitration process was already underway in December, so how could the contract be cancelled ?
     
  15. UFC2020

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    Apparently Bob Arum and co used that argument with the arbitrator that Team Wilder failed to give a date for the rematch within the stipulated time frame and hence the rematch was no longer required. Team Wilder argued stating Wilder's injuries, Covid and the need for a crowd for gate money were the reasons why the rematch didn't take place within the time frame and used the precedent from the Lewis-Rahman case to support their case and the Arbitrator agreed with Team Wilder.
     
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