John Fury "My son couldnt even bench 60 kg shouldnt of fought wilder at that condition"

I agree Fury was in crappy condition and think he was most unwise to take that fight.

 

Are you claiming that if someone CANNOT do 15 pull ups they are weak as f?

 

They're weak as f at pull ups if they've been actively doing them for a year. I'm also talking neutral grip not wide grip, though if you train pull ups actively for a year 3 times a week you should be able to do 20 wide grip if you start from 0 pull ups. Also bodyweight is a factor, if you don't train pull ups and you strictly do weights and you weigh like 250 pounds it'll be harder. My starting pull ups were 4 nasty ass formed pull ups which basically is 0 since I didn't dead hang, and I got to 10 strict neutral grip pull ups in roughly a month.