John L. Sullivan or Joe Goddard ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Basing this on fact, who fought a better level of opposition and proved themselves as a professional M of Q fighter ?
     
  2. janitor

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    Sullivan holds a big edge in depth and dominance, and he must be considered the greater Queensbury fighter based on this.

    However you can make a strong case that the best that Goddard fought, were better than the best that Sullivan fought.

    It's like comparing Larry Holmes to James Douglas.
     
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  3. janitor

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    There are a number of points in boxing history, where you have a paradigm shift in the level of information that gets archived.

    One of those took place at the tail end of Sullivan's career.

    The average student of boxing history, knows a lot about men like Jackson, Slavin, Goddard and Corbett, but not very much about the men who were the key players during Sullivan's prime.

    This has distorted a lot of very knowledgeable boxing fan's opinions of Sullivan.