John Ruiz “The quiet man” The sociopath test!

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  1. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    1. Have you ever rewatched a fight of his?
    2. Have you ever hoped he would win?
    3. Do you see him as a legit HW champ?
    4. Do you think he would be lineal in ANY era of HWs?
    5. Have you watched
    A. None of his fights
    B. 3 fights or less
    C. 8 fights or less
    D. 12 fights or more
    E. All of them (There are help lines)
    6. Who do you think he could beat?
    A. Archie Moore
    B. Mac Foster
    C. Floyd Patterson
    D. Not one
    (You can list multiple)
    Post bellow and I will respond with your results!
     
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  2. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    1 - yes, but not because of him, rather his opposition
    2 -yep, Jones and Valuv
    3 He was legit, ugly, but legit
    4 He would beat, Patterson, Perhaps Holmes, and Maybe Johnson
    5. About 5 fights full
    6 beats them all
     
  3. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ruiz was great at nothing.

    But, he could make you fight his fight, never ducked, and made the best use of what he had.

    He would slow you down, frustrate and wear on you until you took chances then he made you pay for it.

    King of pacing. No one liked it , but it worked.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    1. Yes. The Tua fight.
    2. I wanted him to beat Holyfield after getting jobbed in the first fight.
    3. No
    4. Yes, obviously. He beat Rahman not long after he was lineal.
    5. Holyfield trilogy, Kirk, Rahman, Tua., Oquendo, Haye, Roy, Toney...D
    6. Could beat them all. Probably only beats Foster.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Yes, I believe Haye, Valuev 1 & 2, McCline, Chagaev, Toney, Golota, Oquendo, Rahman, Jones, Johnson, Holyfield (all three), Williams, Feliz, Ballard, Tucker, Anis, Thunder, Nicholson, Kobozev .. and I think I have a couple more (I'm converting fights in my collection from DVD to Mpegs for home streaming).

    2. Sure. I was rooting for him the first two fights against Holyfield. I thought he won the first and he clearly won the second.Those are the only times I can recall, though.

    3. No.

    4. Sure. Why not. Honestly, he didn't clinch any more than the old timers did. 99 percent of those grainy old black and whites from the 30s and earlier are primarily clinch fests. And Hopkins fought exactly the same way Ruiz did when he went on his light heavy run, which is why I hated watching Hopkins fight when he moved up.

    5. I think the above list shows 22 Ruiz fights. So at least 22. I think I have a couple non-title fights. Just haven't come across them again yet. And some amateur fights - against Griffin and Williams. But it's been decades.

    6. Mac Foster. He wasn't very good.
     
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  6. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    I've only seen about 8 of his fights.
    Very ugly to watch but I appreciated his style all the same.

    I will say he should have tried to avenge his loss to Tua, but overall he had a very respectable career.

    He certainly could beat any one of those you mentioned
     
  7. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    70% chance You are a serial killer.
     
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  8. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    I do not like you.
     
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  9. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    I will be contacting the FBI.
     
  10. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Logical, but you will be put on the watch list .
     
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  11. BoxingDialogue

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    I lost count how many times i watched his fight with Tua
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Holmes lol. You mean prime Ruiz and the current Holmes? Then I might just might go along but doubt it
     
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  14. Kamikaze

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    Brutal, I could only stomach it for a few viewings seeing any man even Ruiz knocked out in such a fashion is always a tad uncomfortable for me.
     
  15. McGrain

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    1. Have you ever rewatched a fight of his? - YES
    2. Have you ever hoped he would win? - YES
    3. Do you see him as a legit HW champ? - NO
    4. Do you think he would be lineal in ANY era of HWs? - YES
    5. Have you watched - D. 12 fights or less
    6. Who do you think he could beat? - D. Not one