JOHN RUIZ- #1 contender

i get that but you are pointing out that in his 4 losses since 2005 he didnt get beat down, even though he lost...but with that said the 3 guys he has beaten in the last 5 years ...have sucked beyond belief with a combine 36 losses. i dont see much difference..just the fact he has only 7 fights in 5 years and lost 4 out of 7. simple math to me. bull**** and corruption

 

i dont buy that crap. mike tyson made 30 million with no belt on the line against mcneely
close to 20 million vs mathis jr (no belt)
razor ruddock fights he was in the 15 mill range and that was 20 years ago

6 million to fight haye? what a sham.

so if he won the belt, said "**** this belt, trash can it"
and fought say arreola or tua.... are you saying he wouldnt get close to that? because the world title appears in the promos? evey fight you see on tv is for a title...the average joe doesnt know the difference

 

heres where you give a guy credit in losing a 12 round title fight
holyfield vs bowe
bowe vs holyfield
ali vs frazier (15 rds)
foreman vs holyfield
ruddock vs tyson

ruiz losing 12 round hug and clinch fests to the biggest worst champion ever in valeuv, a small guy in chagev who wlad dismantled, and the blown up middle weights in jones and toney who kicked his ass. all i can say, is ANYONE is hard pressed to justify this guy getting a shot in 2010 after the facts i just layed out.
sum it up

7 fights since 2005

3 wins (opponents had 36 losses combined)

4 losses in sloppy clutch fests

i rest my case

anyone that cant see how bad this is hasnt been around very long to appreciate what real fights and contenders were

 

so when the people turn on the radio and hear "heavyweight champion of the world" and david haye starts talking....arent they gonna wonder when he fought and defeated wlad or vitali? i thought those were the champions? :huh
i guess you can pass that off on the average guy....haye is about as much of a heavyweight champion right now as Shannon briggs was

 

yeah, prob is, bhop didnt lose 4 squeakers in a row, in between his squeaker losses to JT he beat the **** out of a champion in tarver, beat the **** out of winky wright , then lost to calzaghe, comes back and beats up the the undisputed middleweight champ in pavlik . he wasnt fighting ****ing bums with 18 losses . and in his wins vs elite comp, he schooled them
very bad comparison bro....had to take you to school on that one

 

well, i actually think he should have fought them when he called them out and they accepted. which one was signed and less than a month away.
but yes, i think no matter what he should fight one of them next after ruiz, vitali is retiring soon. hes done. are you one of these build the fight up guys? well it was built pretty damn high last 2 years when he was at their fights calling them out and making tees with cut off heads... we got that part..we gonna waste another 6 months on his mouth?