John Ruiz has retired

That my friend is a definate 10 out of 10 for entertainment :good

 

this thread isnt even funny

 

Not only good for me, good for you too to get updated for free.

RJJ was P4P#1 at the time and there were many experts who picked Ruiz to knock him out despite Jones being the favorite. If you have seen the fight then you will also remember that Ruiz landed a big punch in the very first round that stunned Jones. You can call him weak all you want, you didn't even know what weight Jones was moving up from which also means you don't know what the hell he accomplished at light heavyweight and where he was on P4P lists so you remain clueless and your prediction is pure bull****. This is years later and you don't even know what weight Jones was moving up from so you want to tell me you knew exactly what Ruiz was back then and what Jones was?

Yes I can discuss with you his choice of opponent and I'm sure you will be clueless in this as well. Who did you expect him to fight instead?, Byrd who was coming off a win over Holyfield(who Ruiz already beat) for the vacant IBF title or Lewis who was inactive for nearly one year after the win over Tyson still celebrating?. If he was weak in your "professional" eyes then good for you, I don't believe that you saw him as weak before and don't believe that you even existed before judging by your clueless statements of the situation surrounding all these guys back then. In the end Jones is remember as a 4 weight division world champion that includes these weights(note them down): Middleweight, Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight AND Heavyweight. Your theories and "professional" predictions of fights that happened years ago will remain in your own fairytale unheard of world.

One thing no sane man can tolerate is a child playing stubborn despite being proven clueless, wrong and foolish. Have fun now.

 

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Starts at 3:50.

This thread is nothing more than a bad joke.

 

No mention of Stoney or King, who while absolutely awful for the sport, deserve credit for even getting him in the position he enjoyed in getting inexplicable title shot after title shot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5136701

Ruiz turned professional as a cruiserweight in 1992 before moving into the heavyweight division two years later. His first major fight came against contender David Tua in March 1996 on HBO. It was a bitterly disappointing performance for Ruiz, who was severely knocked out in just 19 seconds.


Ruiz spent years trying to live down that knockout, which he eventually did. Promoter Don King, with whom Ruiz would eventually have a falling out, helped guide Ruiz to 11 consecutive wins, including a knockout of former titleholder Tony Tucker in 1998.



In 2000, King secured Ruiz a title shot against Holyfield, who won a controversial decision. That led to the rematch, in which Ruiz won the title for the first time, completing an unlikely trip to the top of boxing.




"I want to thank all of my fans for staying in my corner through a long, up-and-down ride, as well as members of my family and team -- my manager and legal advisor, attorney Tony Cardinale, my brother [and cornerman], Eddie, and [strength coach] Keith McGrath, who've been with me so long," Ruiz said. "I also want to thank my trainer Miguel Diaz and [assistant] Richie Sandoval for teaching an old dog new tricks, and my promoter, Golden Boy Promotions, the fairest promoter in boxing."


Ruiz left out longtime trainer and manager Norman "Stoney" Stone, who was instrumental in Ruiz's success. But Stone's fiery personality eventually became too much for Ruiz, and they parted ways in 2005 after Stone's in-ring meltdown following Valuev's title victory.

 

Yeah actually, I appreciate they parted on bitter terms but 'Stoney' was the guy that put that "I'll show you" chip on Ruiz's shoulder a lot of the time and helped him over-achieve.

And without King, well, without King he gets no title shot in 2000 and maybe he never would have.

 

Ruiz overachieved thanks to a ton of determination, a big chip on his shoulder, a good jab with a sneaky right and the right contacts at the right time.

I could say plenty about the things I didn't like about John Ruiz, but there are many more talented boxers that failed because they didn't have even half the focus and drive that Ruiz had.

 

no wonder why Golota's arm is still injured

 

The only fond memory I have of Ruiz is him getting smashed to pieces by Tua. He is underated, but he was horrible to watch, and the guy has the personality of a cucumber.

 

Goodbye Johnny

 

Well I appreciate the guy

And I thought his fight against Haye did show a lot of heart

And no "hugging"

 

You don't know you boxing history too well... Ruiz was not the only heavyweight to lose to a former middleweight.... An all time great heavyweight in Jim Corbett was knocked out by a former middleweight In Bob Fitzsimmons, who was actually very close to a middleweight at the time..

Losing to Roy Jones is not as embarrassing as you are trying to make it sound. Roy was the pound for pound number one at the time, Ruiz was actually even the underdog, who gave Roy his closest fight in years.

 

We've had Zsolts Erdei and Sven Ottke, he isn't worse than them.

 

you know ruiz has been stinking up the heavyweight division for the last decade ever since he was given the opportunity to face holyfield...those fights were boring as ****.....he became hated to me after bullshitting a DQ win over Kirk Johnson..man that the theatrics he pulled in that fight were unbelievable...the hugging, the bitching...this is what he was known for in his damn prime..plus during his so called prime he only managed to stop only 1 top contender: fres oquendo and that was mostly because the fight was so damn dull ...the last televised ruiz fight in the U.S was back in 2005 where he was soundly defeated by james toney cuz HBO or any other station would not air his fights....david haye did the boxing world justice and hopefully a step in the right direction with the heavyweight division by giving ruiz the beating he deserved....possibly the most entertaining ruiz fight ever..to his credit ruiz actually tried to fight like a boxer and went out like one....but make no mistake he'll be a faded memory to boxing fans within 5 years...real talk

 

Vitali better get that life insurance :yep but i think if haye dont ko wlad within 3 rounds i think it could be a very hard night for him.