John Ruiz is the Best American HW.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TerryESB, Jan 7, 2010.


  1. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I'd like to see a tournament between Arreola, Chambers, Ruiz and Thompson to decide who the best American heavy actually is. You could probably argue for having Johnson in there instead of Ruiz

    Povetkin
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    We're kinda down from 70's standards aren't we?
     
  3. Schluchz

    Schluchz New Member Full Member

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    Well for starters he already KO'ed Chagaev who did much better agains your so called TOP HW Valuev, and he did so in a very onesided match.
    It could have been Valuev but he refused the offer to fight Wlad.

    And what does is prove that Valuev may be the best Russian HW right now? So Peter ist Nigerias best HW does this make him a better boxer somehow?
     
  4. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    True but that gift negates the robbery in the first Valuev fight.
     
  5. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay...Well, that's your book. Best thing to do is to keep it to yourself. Because...nobody else has read that book, and nobody seems to agree with any:goodthing you're saying.
     
  6. RUSKULL

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    Ruiz isn't the best American Heavyweight :nono

    FightNews ranks them as follows:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. David Haye
    5. Eddie Chambers (USA)
    6. Chris Arreola (USA)
    7. Ruslan Chagaev
    8. Nikolai Valuev
    9. Alexander Dimitrenko
    10. Denis Boytsov
    11. Evander Holyfield (USA)
    12. Oleg Maskaev
    13. Brian Minto (USA)
    14. Sam Peter
    15. Kevin Johnson (USA)
    16. Odlanier Solis
     
  7. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Valuev fight wasn't a robbery, friend. It was a horrible, lousy, excruciating fight....for the viewer. But it wasn't a robbery. The thing about Ruiz is that he has a survival strategy that allows him to always be in contention against contenders and untalented title holders like Valuev. But, any time he step up, he is not only beaten, but embarassed. The Roy Jones fight really did invalidate anyone who claims that Ruiz is a talented or even a very good fighter. I mean, when you get your ass kicked by a middle weight, it's time to retire...that is if you have any pride or self-respect. :lol:
     
  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    The fact that David Haye is trying to put off a fight with Ruiz cannot be a surprise to anyone. Such a move has been "On the cards" since he won the title!
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Just a little!!!
     
  10. t-worm

    t-worm oldbie Full Member

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    its time for a Super 16 HW boxing tournament
     
  11. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    Maybe not a robbery but Ruiz won the fight in my eyes.
     
  12. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Those rankings are flawed! They don't take into account that Ruiz has been inactive.
     
  13. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    If Wlad beats Povetkin he should only get about the same amount of credit that Haye got for beating Valuev by decision. Povetkin and Valuev have about the same level of boxing skills, I think we all could agree to that, right.
     
  14. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ignoring the issue of Puerto Rican sovereignty/nationality, Ruiz was born and raised in Massachusetts. He's American.
     
  15. patscorpio

    patscorpio Active Member Full Member

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    this...man golota got a raw deal in those title bouts with ruiz and chris byrd..both of them he clearly won in my opinion